Boycott SBNP Advertisers? Here's the other side...
At the risk of being called a "pro-union rag" again, let's take a look at the SBNP advertisers point of view. This came in as a comment this morning and is worth discussing. I appreciate hearing from one of the advertisers...thank you.
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I am an advertiser in the SBNP. I do not like what is going on at the paper. It is terrible and regrettable. However, the only way to reach the greater SB audience is through this paper and its sad ownership.
But having someone create lists of advertisers is threatening. This is obviously the intent. Frankly, having someone threaten me for my advertisement in any paper, smacks of the kind of coercion that occurred and occurs in societies that have some pretty terrible names of their own.
The press is free in this country. If you don't want to subscribe, do so. If you don't want to patronize, do so. If you want to organize, do so. But if you threaten those who choose to advertise in an American newspaper then you must realize the consequence is a minor scrimish, but the loss of those voices that are not your own. This is exactly what Wendy has done to her own newspaper and now you have been brave enough to do it to your community.
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I am an advertiser in the SBNP. I do not like what is going on at the paper. It is terrible and regrettable. However, the only way to reach the greater SB audience is through this paper and its sad ownership.
But having someone create lists of advertisers is threatening. This is obviously the intent. Frankly, having someone threaten me for my advertisement in any paper, smacks of the kind of coercion that occurred and occurs in societies that have some pretty terrible names of their own.
The press is free in this country. If you don't want to subscribe, do so. If you don't want to patronize, do so. If you want to organize, do so. But if you threaten those who choose to advertise in an American newspaper then you must realize the consequence is a minor scrimish, but the loss of those voices that are not your own. This is exactly what Wendy has done to her own newspaper and now you have been brave enough to do it to your community.
posted by Sara De la Guerra | 9/15/2006 05:57:00 AM
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Good journalism is good business. Good business is good journalism.
Going after advertisers and subscribers is a mistake ultimately: it hurts dedicated journalists and by extension the Santa Barbara community.
It certainly hurts the businesses of local advertisers -- and the pay and benefits employees who work for them can expect to receive. Many of our local businesses, for their own financial health in competing against chains and on-line competitors, have no choice but to to advertise in the News-Press.
Wendy McCaw is doing enough damage to herself and to those -- in and out of the newsroom -- who work for her. Many need that paycheck and believe in the newspaper. It would be easy for an anon competitor to start listing advertisers on this blog, but that's not how business is done in Santa Barbara. It's destructive many different ways and to many different people.
Why bring these terrible matters to a new low? It will hurt employees at the newspaper and local small businesses and their employees worse than it will hurt McCaw and von Wiesenberger.
How about a post that looks ahead and starts exchanging ideas about long-term solutions? There are fairly conventional and effective solutions that would work. They haven't been talked about publicly because they would require sophistication, dialogue and compromise from all sides, including McCaw's; perhaps everyone assumes, based on good evidence so far, admittedly, that McCaw is not willing to listen or talk.
One voice, an advertiser in the SBNP, wrote:
"...If you want to organize, do so. But if you threaten those who choose to advertise in an American newspaper then you must realize the consequence is a minor scrimish, but the loss of those voices that are not your own." ...The writer probably meant to add "not" 'a minor skirmish'.
Why wouldn't you see it as another form of advertising? Those who support the NP management, and they obviously exist, will see it as another reason to patronize those businesses. Those of us who have cancelled our subscriptions will see what we're missing and be able to make informed choices.
All's fair in love and war and McCaw et al have declared war on the newspaper's employees, those who don't kowtow to management and create a vox mccaw (parrot aficionados will know what a raucous noise that is!)
I willingly and happily patronized advertisers - and, in fact, checked carefully each week's Home Improvement and La Sumida ads, for instance, among others. I now make an effort to avoid both those businesses, aware, though, that all major garden supply places do or have recently advertised in the NP.
This blog has evolved way beyond being a letters column to being a news source of what's going on. Who's supporting the management of the NP and who is not and who is supporting the sadly weak Sound with their ads is important information, "news", to many of us. I welcome that news and in fact may buy the paper today so as to make a list that includes the larger companies, such as Home Depot and OSH.
Although I preferred Armstrong's editorials, even though I disagreed with many of them, to those of the slurpy writing of John Lankford (editorial writer of the Santa Maria Times and now based for his editorials in Florida - how many times did he write boringly about himself?!), I'd subscribe to the SMT in a flash if there were a local SB or a County edition.
I appreciate that perspective, but I couldn't disagree more. As a business owner, you make tough ethical decisions all the time. Here's one of them: whose back am I willing to scratch to get ahead?
I search for employees at my job, which is in a competitive field. We're having a hard time finding people in this market. Still, I refuse to run an ad in the Newspress. Used to be I would go there first by default. Now I go to santabarbarajobs.net, The Indy, Monster.com, Craigslist, etc. It takes a little more work to find people, but there are many outlets, and it's worth it not sending cash to McCaw.
Same with advertising. There are a million ways. I doubt any business will flounder very much by pulling their relationship with the Newspress. You'll probably do better by breaking your mold. And if your business is that reliant on the NP, you should be so outraged that you're storming the building. So, be creative, pull your ads to avoid public backlash and probably encourage public admiration. Be proactive. But don't shrug your shoulders and say, "There's nothing I can do! Don't blame me!" because there is plenty you can do and the alternative is supporting McCaw, which is really indefensible at this point.
Another thought...
There are PLENTY of other places to advertise in this town: The Daily Sound, The Independent, Coastal Woman, etc.
If advertisers who "do not like what is going on at the paper" pull their advertising, this mess at the NP would resolve itself faster than you can say, "I'd like to place an ad..."
Sorry Mr/MRS/MS Advertiser--- this IS a free country; if you acknowledge awareness of the horrific actions of the NewsPress management in the past two months---people's lives and livelihoods on the line--attacks upon all manner of groups and individuals in Santa Barbara---then it is your choice to continue filling the coffers of the NewsPress. This is not a "threat" any more than your choice to pay Wendy and Co. to promote your business is a 'threat' to the workers past and present. You made a choice. We, the Santa Barbara community, will make choices as to whether or not to continue patronizing the businesses that do business with the McCaw dictatorship.
it's really quite simple
It is important to apply financial pressure to the News-Press management. It's the only thing McCaw and her cronies will listen to - if even that. She has shown no intention of fixing things on her own, and we readers have only economic measures to force changes. (Short of resorting to a "five-point plan" that involves domestic terrorism.)
It's too bad some advertisers will be caught in the crossfire, but it's the only tool we have. Advertisers can avoid this situation by voluntarily pulling their ads and finding other vehicles for reaching their customers.
I think a South Coast edition of the Santa Maria Times is the best solution.
The Sound fills a different niche.
I'm sorry businesses feel threatened by the boycott list. But they made and make the choice to pay for advertising in a despicable newspaper. Choices bring consequences.
There would be a whole lot of good publicity for any business that said, `Enough! I'm only advertising in solid local news organizations!'.
City Watcher said "This blog has evolved way beyond being a letters column to being a news source of what's going on."
No disrespect meant to this blog, which I enjoy reading, but to call it a 'news source' on this or any topic needs serious caveats that speak to issues raised by the damage to the News-Press.
A 'news source' should involve reporters who aren't anonymous (indeed, provide contact information) and who disclose their pursuit of primary sources. They go to meetings, interview the people involved in a story on all sides, search for and peruse documents. If their path to any of that is obstructed that gets reported, too.
This blog appears to include postings by anonymous people pretending to be who they're not. But who knows really? Not really any accountability. Even postings that are apparently sincere in their effort to inform what's going on inside the News-Press often get important details wrong, or pass along unsubstantiated speculations.
And some postings are exactly right, coming from real reporters witnessing what's going on inside the News-Press. But how to know when that's the case? They can't give their names. And sometimes posters pose as them for the purpose of giving misinformation. I can't give my name -- I work at the News-Press and wish to help a union fight for its reinstatement as a credible news source. Or am I? (I am, but you get my point.)
The News-Press is a seriously compromised product. But to put faith in anonymous bloggers as a substitute is dangerous. But again, this blog does have its place and I read it.
I would be interested in seeing a comparison of advertising rates - $ per column inch, frequency of publication, etc. - for the various print media in this town. Surely there is a way for businesses to allocate their advertising dollars over several publications or formats, reducing reliance on the SBNP, increasing support for other publications and being more in-line with the ideals and principles which are at stake in this whole affair? The larger issue underlying this mess at the SBNP is the fact that all newspapers are struggling to hold onto their readers, in competition with the internet, podcasts, tv and more. The music industry and the movie industry are in the same struggle. A forward-looking business would do well to acknowledge that - and why not now, rather than later?...
ADVERTISERS IN YESTERDAY's NEWS-PRESS:
Brooks Institute
Indigo Furniture
John Entezari lender
Exclusive German Auto Care
Horizon Air
Cox
Jack's Kitchen
Ritz Camera
Santa Barbara Farmer's Markets
Treehouse Restaurant
Pain Relief Center
SAMY's Camera
Wine Cask
Zelo
Ranch House
Longboard's Grill
Craft Essentials
Santa Cruz Market
Arbor Services
Santa Barbara Golf Club
Carpeteria
Case Detective Agency
Home Improvement Center
Marvin Windows and Doors
9/14/2006 9:22 PM
Anon -- I have no aspirations to be a news source other than in what is discussed here might be a source many people don't have. Blogging is an option! I did an interview by email with the Montecito Journal several weeks ago and the reporter was very much concerned about the effects of blogs on newspapers. Newspapers are safe! No one is paying me to go out and beat the bushes for news, attend planning commission hearings and the like!
Blog readers are smart and can tell the difference -- and know what it means to read something from an anonymous and read something that is in a newspaper. Please -- just like anything, take what is discussed and reported here with a grain of salt. I am not a journalist but this is a news source -- we talk about items that are not discussed anywhere else, isn't that news?
You sure aren't going to find this kind of a post on the News-Press pages -- asking whether an advertising boycott would work.
Please remember some of these advertisers have 50 week plans that they have already paid for to get a discount...it may not be financially feasible to them to bail even if they wanted to.
Thanks for the list!
Now I know who I should give my business and praise to.
Don't worry NP advertiser. The negative bloggers on this blog are just blowing wind. They couldn't organize even with the help of a union.
9/15/2006 9:19 AM:
Good points --- and I note that I wrote that this blog is "A (emphasis added) news source," just one of other sources providing fragments of info.
Indeed, yes, a newspaper or anything purporting to be a newspaper, a source for news reports should not be anonymous reporting; much of this and any blog is commentary. But from the multiplicity of comments, one can pull out what happened.
However, without a true daily community newspaper there is no central — and — reliable news source. That's what makes this so very very sad for all. Most of us have no inside connections to know what's happening. Over the course of years, we have been able to compare the news stories with the reality, as it became known post facto and played itself out, and had grown to rely on skill, truthfulness and lack of bias of the NP reporters, Molina, C. Schultz, Hadley and so on and so on.
(Sure, every paper/publication has bias in the very choices it makes as to what to print or emphasize or how it headlines.)
Of course, some reliable staffers are still there; having cancelled my subscription, I miss reading their articles: Hobbs, Burns, others and including the acerbic Alcorn.
A boycott, cancelling a subscription is no fun but what else can we out here do? With enough money, start another paper - and having worked for a paper in another state, I know well it comes down to money.
Even a McCaw may at some point squawk. She said at a public meeting when she took over that she intended to run the paper as a business, not as a non-profit for her own interests or only her own interests.
Maybe at some point she will see that her interests as a business owner and our interests as a community do in many important aspects co-incide. Or maybe see, as the private person she is reputed to be, that living as a lightning rod for a sizeable amount of community anger and scorn is not what she wants.
...Well, one can hope..., and in the meantime those of us who care for an unbiased and true news source should do everything we can to hurt the bottom line of the NP and that includes not patronizing (and letting them know why) the advertisers.
Alternative suggestions?
funny to watch the advertisers whine and cry, but DO NOTHING ELSE.
hey, there's a price to being in bed with the devil - we need to BOYCOTT till it hurts.
anon 8:13 wrote:
"There are PLENTY of other places to advertise in this town: The Daily Sound, The Independent, Coastal Woman, etc."
Don't forget Edhat.com--that site is now providing excellent news from various reliable sources updated throughout the day; also local upcoming events, & even obituaries (despite the N-P's initial attempt to prevent the latter). And their ad rates are very fair.
Editor and Publisher is a national newspaper industry publication. Here is a story that came out today, mentioning the Independent.
More 'SB News-Press' Departures Bring Staff Exits to 22 Since July
By Joe Strupp
Published: September 15, 2006 4:30 PM ET
http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003123075
Have to wonder what her colleagues in the industry think of Wendy and Nipster.
and blogers didn't cost Sen. Joe Lieberman an election? Don't underestimate us!
yep, and when its you, your spouse, or child who is laid off because they happen to be in the advertising/vendor food chain of supply, rejoice then as to the financial sacrifice you are willing (sorry, forced) to step up and make without complaint in the name "the cause."
Better yet, offer up your names alongside the list of advertisers. When the dust is settled, we can then exercise our "free rights" and simply tell you to take your self-righteous dollars elsewhere.
I have to ask from a business stance, how much sense does it make to keep advertising with a paper that you know is losing readers? doh
This is a war, the NP started it, it got personal when they went after Edhat, which is the same is going after the community. If your an advertiser, you may just end up being collateral damage.
I have to ask from a business stance, how much sense does it make to keep advertising with a paper that you know is losing readers? doh
All newspapers have a downward trend as a result of the internet.
If a newspaper has 40,000 readers, then yeah, I'd do it. Even if it plummeted to 20,000, i'd still be reaching alot of people.
If anything go after the local advertiser. They know what's going on at the NP, the big out of town companies may not.
If a newspaper has 40,000 readers, then yeah, I'd do it. Even if it plummeted to 20,000, i'd still be reaching alot of people.
Money over principal - sounds like Santa Barbara!
Sara I am sorry to post this again but I seem to have put it on the wrong thread and I think the suggestion of calling the County about their ads is worth a second post...thanks:
I have taken to leaving a little “calling card” at restaurants and Mom and Pop biz that states: I appreciate your establishment but I am sorry to see you are an advertiser in the News Press. The ownership of the paper has hurt our community and until things improve I hope you will consider taking your ad dollars else where. (and then I list a few suggestions with phone numbers, most particularly on-line options.) I've notice a few of the advertisers have left the NP. I'd sure like to see those big color ads of Silverhorn and Cabana Homes depart but I am not a customer so it’s hard to make my feeling known.
ALL SB County Taxpayers who are distressed about the NPMess should be calling on County CEO Michael Brown demanding the county find another source for public notice--the County is one of single largest advertisers in the NP--and that's our money folks. County of Santa Barbara Administration: 568-3400
Advertisers and readers,
Perhaps this can serve as an example of how to handle this. The journalists released a copy this letter to the News-Press from Sonia Hayward, owner of the Victorian Vogue costume shop on State Street, during their Sept. 5 press conference at Storke Placita. She provided them a copy, and it was included in press materials:
"It is not with malice, but extreme sadness, that I’m canceling my subscription to the News Press. The termination of Starshine Roshell’s world class column is the last straw in this deplorable situation of hubris oppressing rationality.
A few weeks ago, the disclosure of unethical tactics led to the exodus of nine – eventually fifteen – of your highly professional news staff. This caused me to withdraw my business advertisement to morally support their stance. It was my hope that this obviously disproportionate mistake would resolve itself and the daily paper that I have read and loved for the past 30 years, would return to equilibrium.
Instead, not withstanding a majority of Associated Press and New York Times by lines that I can cull from most periodicals, the worthy News Press has descended into parochialism. What’s happening here? This town has always symbolized intellectual, spiritual and mental enlightenment. Why isn’t it obvious to the publisher that, if everyone in the parade is marching off step with Johnny, perhaps Johnny himself may be the one off beat?
Speaking of "beat", Barney Brantingham had the pulse of the city in his column. Dr. Laura may have many admirable qualities, but a connection with the heart and soul of the community is not one of them yet. She hasn’t lived here long enough. Call her column something else. Don’t rub salt in our collective wound.
When I called the News Press to cancel the subscription in person, I got a recording that informed me you also owned a magazine, a Mexican newspaper, a Goleta newspaper and a radio station. When I tried to reach an operator I got a dial tone. Twice. If you have so many possessions, please hire a secretary to answer your phone.
Please relate to Ms. McCaw that she may have more toys than I – or my friends – or most of the population of this planet - but she doesn’t automatically win. Winning is garnishing the respect, esteem and credibility of others, not incurring the wrath of your supporters. It’s not, however, too late to admit to wrong decisions – we all make them – and amend them. It’s not too late to rectify the mistakes and win back our respect and our business.
I have withdrawn my display advertisement. I’ve cancelled my personal subscription. I await the day I can renew them both ... "
Respectfully, Sonia Hayward
anon 5:16pm:
correction: sounds like the NEW to Santa Barbara mentality....a la: Wendy, Travis, Laura, "Homeowner Defense Fund", and their ilk.....
Wow I love some of the comments here especiallly to quote from above " if you acknowledge awareness of the horrific actions of the NewsPress management in the past two months---people's lives and livelihoods on the line" yet this person advocates boycotting local business and another says if they get hurt well than so be it I believe "collatoral damage" was the quote.
How would hurting local business owners and their employees be any better than what Wendy has done to the workers at the news press?
Seriously with this if you are not with us against Wendy, you are against us mentality that many of the pro boycott posters have they sound like George Bush. PEOPLE READ YOUR POSTS YOU SOUND LIKE GW AT THE UN. Ponder that one for a while....
This ROCKS:
Anonymous said...
I have taken to leaving a little “calling card” at restaurants and Mom and Pop biz that states: I appreciate your establishment but I am sorry to see you are an advertiser in the News Press. The ownership of the paper has hurt our community and until things improve I hope you will consider taking your ad dollars else where. (and then I list a few suggestions with phone numbers, most particularly on-line options.) I've notice a few of the advertisers have left the NP.
To anon 3:10:
You said: Better yet, offer up your names alongside the list of advertisers. When the dust is settled, we can then exercise our "free rights" and simply tell you to take your self-righteous dollars elsewhere.
Sure, you would.
"Boycott SBNP Advertisers? Here's the other side..." I missed the first "other side" and can't find it. @ANONYMUS 3:10 "Better yet, offer up your names alongside the list of advertisers. When the dust is settled, we can then exercise our "free rights" and simply tell you to take your self-righteous dollars elsewhere.
9/15/2006 3:10 PM" 3:10, offer your name, be a leader. What are reasonable alternatives to a boycott? How about advertisers get together with creative solutions that respect the citizens. Talking down to others doesn't help. @ANONYMOUS 5:16. This is about principle,intergity. No anonymus wants to be "ceased and desisted" or gagged. We're all in the same boat. People can only do what they can do. Obviously advertisers have more options. I still want to read first "other side". As of now, BOYCOTT.
Wow - this issue has torn the whole town apart. I think the advertisers are fair game. I hope you keep posting the advertiser list so that visitors like myself can join the boycott and support your cause. Good luck.
Karen - Oakland, CA
I just saw something on the Indy about another rally at DLG Plaza. Anybody confirm? What's the deal?
"If folks decided to form a kind of citizens commission on newspaper ethics and practices and to hold public hearings to consider and evaluate, among other things, circumstances at the News-Press, would the proceedings be considered newsworthy by those who now control News-Press decisionmaking?July 8, 2006" This is something to consider. The main thing is DO SOMETHING.
Boycott the advertisers, cut off the blood money.
Getting those little cards explaining to businesses why as a customer we prefer the businesses not to advertise in the News-Press is a fantastic idea. So civilized, not threatening, and not strong-arming.
If someone could arrange getting those little cards available from Cafe-Press then us disorganized blogodrones could achieve a little tiny bit of organization and effectiveness!
To A: 5:49 AM
The "solution" is the right place for debate to go. In line with the idea of a "citizens' committee,” the Chamber of Commerce used to have a "Media Committee." Certainly the Chamber would reflect the interests of local business (advertisers) and, if beefed up, this committee could be a starting place for local community input and media monitoring.
As we have ALL learned over the past few month, the operation and direcition of our local media DOES have a huge impact on our community. Maybe a Chamber member could check in to the current existence of this committee and report via Blogabarbara. If the Chamber would host a community roundtable, that would be a start.
If you can tell me where "Cafe Press" is I will deliver a stack of "Calling Cards" ASAP (...er, well at least by Monday...)
Here are some businesses advertising in the Santa Barbara Daily Sound which deserve our support:
Santa Barbara Chrysler Jeep
Eyeglass Factory
A.G. Edwards
Telegraphy Brewing Company
PR Store
Ameican Beauty Supply & Salon
Lucky Cab
Easu's
Game Seeker
Sweet Alley
Aldo's
The Chandlery
Santa Barbara Bodyworks
See, there are other ways to sell your products/services and not keep adding to the pool of blood money.
anon 11am: Cafe Press is a "virtual" store----cut and paste the link below, and upload your card!
thanks much! or, perhaps you could just put the text of your calling card into this blog, and we can all make our own. Thanks much, either way!
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/makemoney
"Frankly, having someone threaten me for my advertisement in any paper, smacks of the kind of coercion that occurred and occurs in societies that have some pretty terrible names of their own."
Yeah, they are called "democracies". Press is not "free" in this country, it's actually for sale. Free are consumers to boycott bad products, to push for the production of better ones. Move your advertising somewhere else.
How about the Classifieds - the City and County both advertise there with our tax dollars. Both have websites, we need to get them to pull their ads.
Anonymous 9/16/2006 9:02 AM
I am glad to see American citizen's expessing their freedom of speech. I want this for all Americans. The Chamber of Commerce has a
strong voice. I want Steve Cushman for the "citizens". The Independent : "Speaking before the City Council, Steve Cushman, Chamber of Commerce president, blasted the public art piece on State Street featuring McDonald’s golden arches. Cushman and others, including McDonald’s restaurateur David Peterson argued that public funds should not be used to make political statements criticizing a prominent and generous downtown business enterprise." from 9-14-06 MEDIA MADNESS. American voices. http://www.independent.com/news/2006/09/logo_fight.html
Anonymous 9/16/2006 9:02 AM
I am glad to see American citizen's expessing their freedom of speech. I want this for all Americans. The Chamber of Commerce has a
strong voice. I want Steve Cushman for the "citizens". The Independent : "Speaking before the City Council, Steve Cushman, Chamber of Commerce president, blasted the public art piece on State Street featuring McDonald’s golden arches. Cushman and others, including McDonald’s restaurateur David Peterson argued that public funds should not be used to make political statements criticizing a prominent and generous downtown business enterprise." from 9-14-06 MEDIA MADNESS. American voices. http://www.independent.com/news/2006/09/logo_fight.html from The Independent FEATURES Logo Fight 9-14-06.
From Calling Card: Vitural Cafe seems too complex for this simple idea and I would love to have others use the text. Someone posted that advertisers should not worry because “we” could not "get organized." It would be fitting therefore, if this card idea became so popular that the New Press had to do a story on the trendy little yellow index cards flapping all over Santa Barbara giving new meaning to "getting carded!"
That said, here is the easy process: I photocopy the text on bright yellow card stock (yellow is not mandatory, any bright color will do, just so it gets noticed by mgm't.). My card is about the size of an index card and I keep a stack in my car. I turn it in with my credit card or cash payment. Once and a while I hand it directly to the owner or sometimes if I chicken out I mail it back after I depart the offending enterprise.
Side One:
I appreciate your establishment but I am sorry to see you are an advertiser in the News Press. The ownership of the paper has hurt our community and until things improve I hope you will consider taking your ad dollars elsewhere. Some alternative places, where I can still receive your timely and important message, are suggested on reverse side. Thank you for your attention to customer needs.
Side Two:
The Independent
965-5205 / independent.com
The Daily Sound
564-6001 / santabarbarafree.com
Edhat On Line Magazine
624-6533 ed@edhat.com
The Los Angeles Times
(213) 237-5000 / latimes.com
Ventura Count Star News
650-2900 / venturacountystar.com
KEYT
882-3933 / keyt.com
Any new business to boycott?
City&County metioned b4, big ones "County emergency workers were inundated with callers complaining about the poor air quality resulting from a fire in the Los Padres National Forest that grew from 30,000 acres to 80,000 acres Saturday night. The amount of smoke and ash in the air may be a nuisance, but for most adults the conditions should not significantly affect health or respiratory conditions, said Keith Cullom, spokesman for the Santa Barbara County Fire Department. The volume of calls are "interfering with normal emergency operations," said Mr. Cullom, also adding that emergency workers were answering the phones throughout Saturday night and Sunday.9/18/2006 8:42" County emergency must address the direct link to newspress failure to report fire properly and overloading emergency workers with calls. Must get public airing on this. The County can use ad space for public service to address McCaw.
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