Sheriff Predictions
Brown or Anderson?
posted by Sara De la Guerra | 11/02/2006 08:34:00 PM
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Brown by 5% spread.
Unlike the rhetoric for Goleta Council, definitely time for a change with the Sheriff. Notice how the fundraiser flap keeps lingering.
BILL BROWN's department can not solve 65% of the crimes in Lompoc. It did manage to arrest 63 children and expose the local school district to multimillion dollars in lawsuit loses while he was AWOL on ne of his all to frequent junkets. That's not a record SANTA BARBARA COUNTY can afford. No wonder only a handful of the Deputy Sheriffs' Associate want to risk their deparmtent and put all of us in jeopardy. BROWN has no doable ideas only lots of rheotoric written by his mandlers. We need SHERIFF JIM ANDERSON not a pretender.
Nice rhetoric, but what is the honest prediction?
How many Thomas and Arnoldi supporters will move to Brown?
Most of them will.
Brown has totally outclassed Anderson and Anderson knows it. If voters have been paying attention Brown will win.
There is a rumor floating that an article written for the NP that was damaging to Anderson was killed by Armstrong because it was embarassing to his endorsement of Anderson. Has anyone else heard this?
I predict Anderson by a tiny number of votes, so Brown will win in 2010.
Brown is smart and likable. His big drawback to me is the support of Jim Thomas... anyone who stooped so low as to comment on the Michael Jackson case is toxic.
Anon 7:20.
I guess you didn't read the Barney McManigal hit piece? Nothing but a rehash of year old unsubstantiated allegations. Travis didn't kill that one, did he? I guess the news bureau forgot the first lesson of “J” school, which is news, has to be NEW information, that’s what makes it news.
That whole thing smacks of political influence peddling and calls into question all those allegation of too much politicization of the news room and their clean up efforts. It was truly one of the worst pieces I’ve every read. Where’s the balance? No interview with the Council’s attorney, no interview with the Sheriff, no interview with Jepsen or her attorney? Where’s the proof of an active AG’s investigation? If there was an investigation, then why did the AG endorse Brown? Can we say conflict of interest? If there is/was an investigation, then why doesn’t anyone know about it? It’s been almost a year and no one has been notified they’re a target? Rumors only, come on, give me a break!
McManigal needs to talk to someone and learn how to right a proper news story, truly garbage.
To Anon 7:15
What have you been watching? Brown and his lackeys have been throwing so much muck I feel like I’m watching a mud-bog race, not an election. They have not spared any effort to tar Anderson and THE WHOLE sheriff’s department as morally bankrupt, incompetent, and ignorant. Yeah, he really brings credibility to this table. NOT!
I was actually a Brown supporter in the beginning, but wow, not any more. Anderson is clearly my choice now.
Valerio - I disagree with you about what the Arnoldi & Thomas former voters will do. A certain percentage will go to Brown, but the informed voter will make their own choices - they don't move or vote in lock step just because their primary candidate of choice, who lost, tells them to.
Within the Sheriff's Department, Arnoldi's infantile tirades about why he lost have alienated many of the deputies and civilian workers who voted for him in the primary. Arnoldi's immediate embracing of Brown is not well received since Brown's promotional practices smack of cronyism and ineptitude. Deputies do not want a leader who has publicly declared there are virtually no employees to promote working within the ranks, even before he has a chance to know or lead them. That's a pretty powerful indication of where Brown is coming from, and it resembles the Newspress Mess - bring in the outsiders and to hell with the workers!
As for Thomas, he is poison and Brown can't distance himself away fast enough. Although Thomas was quite useful to Brown (in dirty trick campaigning the only way Thomas knows how to operate according to the knowledgeable in the Sheriff's department), he is universally despised within the ranks for his tyrannical style, and is even more reviled in the treatment of his estranged wife and her unfortunate death. Again, Thomas’s immediate support of Brown, and his publicly acknowledged and published hatred of Anderson makes many a voter uneasy; Thomas’s lack of professionalism brings into serious question his motivations to “help” Brown. Much of Thomas’s support in the primary election were from people who were attached to him because of ignorance to his true character, and believe me, he was most unhappy when he lost, but sees Brown as a way to insinuate himself back into the department – through a surrogate. Brown and his supporters can claim he’d never be a surrogate, but those that know Thomas and his ways, know that Thomas’s monster ego would never let himself be relegated to the back room. Thomas’s anger at Anderson is proof of that. dd
Will CRAIG SMITH write about the killing of a news article that makes Anderson look bad? Let us hope his sources are true!
But do notice the News-Supress today featured a huge opinion piece by Anderson, essentially free space for self-promotion as a "Voice from Santa Barbara County" even though Anderson resides in Lompoc.
Those opinion contributions at least so far have been faithful before about where the writer originates. Never before has a Voice from the County been in the title, considering they all have been from somewhere in the County.
Obviously, considering the fairness and integrity of the Editorial editor, Brown must in queue for his own 500-word space tomorrow in the Sunday edition. And then I woke up.
As a long-time sheriff’s department employee I can say without a doubt Bill Brown has virtually no support from within the organization; except from Butch and his few die-hards or some staff members who are playing both sides hoping to benefit from their duplicity.
Many of us (me included) wanted to wait and see what Brown was offering before we decided. Well, now we see. Mudslinging, lies, deceit, and a total willingness to brand all of us at the sheriff’s department in the most negative light possible; just to further his own naked ambitions.
I am absolutely positive that if the DSA endorsement vote were taken again, Brown would only get a small smattering of support, less than 10% at best. Brown pledges to be a uniter and not a divider, but he has proven to have no credibility to that claim; other than, uniting people to support Anderson despite his failings.
For me and my co-workers there is only one choice and it IS NOT Bill Brown.
First District Streetfighter - last time I looked, Lompoc was still in Santa Barbara County. I didn't know you could only be from Santa Barbara area to be allowed to write an opinion piece. Chill out guy!
Read it again, Emilly...
Those guest opinions until today have been a Voice from Somewhere, not just the County as a whole. Anderson resides in Lompoc, but so does Brown. In the recent past, they ever were labeled as Voice from Noleta.
The editor made it into a "Voice from Santa Barbara County" for the first time as a way to help Anderson, although no one any more really cares a whit about what that editor does or writes.
Word on the street is "anyone but Anderson".. . whose judgment ability was been brought down by the big wigs Sheriff's Council's need for tin badges...it was a high price shoot out, but ends as it should, with the bad quy sent packing. ( and , bad luck because he's such a picture-perfect good looking Sheriff!)
Anderson refused to go on the Ernie Solomon show, and asked Parker Montgomery to speak on his behalf to McManigal, and there is lots of support for Brown in the department, they just don't want the same "education" Palera got.
I agree with Emily, I think ol’ FDS needs a geography lesson. DUH!
Also, FDS, it seems to me that Anderson is just trying to set the record straight on some issues that most of us, me included, know little to nothing about.
If you just go by the campaign rhetoric Brown makes it sound way different than what Anderson wrote. From what little I do know, Anderson seems to be telling it like it is and Brown is spinning things to suit his own ends. I’m tired of that kind of junk, no matter who the candidate or the office. Anderson’s got my vote.
BTW, I also read the McManigal piece and thought it was totally one sided.
I'm LMAO about Ernie Solomon show - who cares about gov't tv? And I'm doubly LMAO about support for Brown in the Sheriff's Department - you guys are repeating the mantra hoping other people will believe you. Aint't gonna happen - we're smarter than that. And so what if Parker Montgomery is the spokesman for the proposed Council. Palera, Schlamera! Grow a set man and then 'maybe' you'll get some respect.
So we've come full circle. Brown by 5%.
dd, you've gone a little too far and show your lack in information about the Sheriff's Department. I have been in the Department for close to 20 years and I personally know Thomas and Anderson. I don't know Brown well.
Thomas was not a tyranical leader. He was well-liked in the Department and still is by a vast majority of those who worked for him. That's why he was unopposed in his two re-elections. There are those who were not promoted and did not like him - same as in any organization.
Your comments regarding his wife Dolly, who I also knew well, are uncalled for. I doubt you personally knew either of them.
Brown will probably win - should be interesting.
I too know Thomas and Anderson well, and Brown less well. I know them from my membership on the Sheriff's Council. 8:33 a.m. has captured the sentiments of all but the most strident Anderson supporters on the Council. Thomas was willing to control the excesses of the large egos on the Council, Anderson was too star-struck to even try.
Anon 8:33
Well, I guess I’ve been around a little longer than you and where I wouldn’t call Thomas tyrannical, it’s just a question of semantics. (Now, Carpenter was a tyrant!)
Thomas preferred to do his dirty work through others, so he wouldn’t get his hand dirty. (Sounds a lot like this campaign doesn’t it?) So, after something happened and you talked to him, he’d say, “Gee wiz. I didn’t know. I’ll see what I can do”. Also, if you were on his good side, you could get away with bloody murder; OTOH, if you ran afoul of him or his cronies then life could be very miserable. Can you say Fred? I knew you could.
Anderson’s biggest problem is that he’s too nice and was too naïve about the snakes left behind by Thomas and his ilk. I see Brown as cut out of the same bolt of cloth as Thomas. Just ask those guys who left LOPD; their stories are as bad, if not worse than some of the monkey business that went on under JT. Thomas and Brown lost the DSA vote for good reasons, despite aggressive campaigning. Anderson’s victory was not as large as it should have been because of the aforementioned problems, which ticked the troops off.
(And no it’s not sour grapes, because Thomas did promote me. Anderson did not.)
Anon 8:33 -
I must've hit a raw nerve talking about voter's statistics and voting patterns 'cause you guys are hitting the roof.
I don't see where I went too far or am lacking in information on the S.O. I'm active in my community and I pay attention to what's happening. Everything I've said is pretty much public knowledge, both from the media, the candidates themsevles(both past and present), and first hand observations.
As for Dolly, She DID deserve better. dd
Anderson "too nice?" Yeah, right. Don't confuse aggressive but sloppy retaliatory tactics with niceness. And as for "snakes" left behind on the Sheriff's Council by Thomas, the Council more than doubled in size under Anderson. Anderson's being bitten by his own snakes.
For anyone who still cares about such things, both Anderson and Brown were given the chance today (Sunday) to address readers of the Santa Maria Times through commentaries on that newspaper's editorial page.
The Times has been an unabashed backer of Brown, but still made sure the incumbent sheriff had a chance to address its readers.
www.santamariatimes.com/articles/2006/11/05/opinion/110506b.txt
www.santamariatimes.com/articles/2006/11/05/opinion/110506c.txt
Wonder why the South Coast daily couldn't find its way to the same fairness?
Oh, wait, no we don't.
Anon 10:17 - the answer to your South Coast reference is the NP reporters are fawning all over Brown and giving him as much print time as possible.
At least they were fair enough to let Anderson respond.
As for the Times, Anderson won that writing match. Brown is way too snarky and tooooo much "I, I, I...".
Listen here ananomous, if you have a problem with Lt. Butch Arnoldi, be a man and tell it to his face. This man has been in just about every station and operation in the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department and left them 10 times better than when he got them. From being a patrol Deputy, to Mountain Patrol, to a Patrol Sergeant, to a Detective, to Station Commander at the Isla Vista Foot Patrol, which in his 3 years there sexual assults went down dramatically and there was not 1 person who went over the cliff. Butch then went to the Carpenteria Station as Station Commander and again crime went down with his LEADERSHIP and with the cooperation of his many loyal deputies and the members of that community. He was ONE of the First Responders at the Goleta Post Office shooting and whild only 5 deputy's got recognation and thanks from the CURRTENT Sheriff the rest including Lt. Butch Arnoldi weren't even recognized.
Butch is a great cop. And he wants Brown to be his boss. Sounds good to me.
Butch, HAHAHAHAHAHA
“Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are”.
He had the DSA endorsement in his pocket four years ago, and he blew it BIG TIME. Then he spends the next four years whining and complaining. Then he runs for Sheriff again, and guess what? He runs a totally incompetent and idiotic campaign, AGAIN.
And, then to top it all off. He spends years and years bad mouthing Thomas (and Brown in the primary) and now he’s in bed with them. Sorry, zero credibility in my book.
Sour grapes???? YOU BET! I was a big time Butch supporter and like many in the department I am totally disillusioned by him and his unseemly behavior. I’ve heard plenty of complaints from Butch, but that’s easy. Fixing the problems, now that’s hard and I haven’t seen any evidence that Butch can fix anything and the same thing goes for Brown whose screwed up Lompoc PD and spends all his time and energy trying to make himself look good.
If the voters will vote based on the experience and knowledge of the Sheriff's Department and NOT on the lies, deceit, and such as is being reported in the newspapers and on television, then, ANDERSON will win by a landslide. He is by far the better qualified candidate, knows more about the Sheriff's department, and judicial process in general. Mr. Brown has made several statements like the Sheriff released inmates - Brown knows the Sheriff does NOT make these decisions and if he thinks the Sheriff gets to decide these things, he will be a dangerous choice for the job. Neither should a law man make a public statement of someone's guilt without a hearing or trial - it's still "innocent until proven guilty" even if there is a smoking gun. Brown should be ashamed of himself!!
Brown Its time for a LEADER not a Dirty politition who has accomplised nothing his last 4 years as Sheriff.
Accomplished nothing? How about the benefit and wage increase for the deputies that stopped the hemorrhage to other departments? What about the $2 million he has earmarked for building a jail? How about those 4 supervisors who wouldn't even talk to the former sheriff, much less give the department anything - will now endorse Anderson. What about the tasers and bullet proof vests - wouldn't have happened unless Anderson pushed for it.
So to say "nothing" happened under Anderson is b.s. Anderson IS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE, good for the men and women of the Sheriff's Department.
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