Santa Barbara Politics, Media & Culture

Tuesday, July 17, 2007

Au Contraire, Mon Frere!

Many of you have questioned the blue lines and that's fine -- but does Citizen Stringer have a point? -- Sara
Does the News-Press just now adopt a position simply because the City of Santa Barbara is promoting the opposite position or action? The editorial and letters today still promote the defunct position that sea level rise is still uncertain and a controversy. No other letters with a different point of view have ever appeared. Has the News-Press really become a "conservative" newspaper publication after all?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, the NewsPress does not take position just because they want to be contrarian. The Blue Line project is a wild waste of money and credibility.

You have been so brainwashed by the bias of the prior NewsPress, you are misled to think these are not valid viewpoints held by many people in this town who are really angry at being ignored so long by both the old NewsPress and the new City Council.

While the Thin Blue Line we have in this town trying to protect us from gangs and further degradation could use every single cent and effort the city council should be applying, don't ever accuse the NewsPress as trivializing critical city matters.

The city council is out of touch; not the NewsPress.

7/17/2007 10:27 PM  
Blogger Bill Carson said...

Children are killing each other in our streets. Couldn't those (tax) dollars be better spent solving the city's gang problem?

7/17/2007 10:38 PM  
Anonymous Milton Freidman said...

This new approach is interesting...old NewsPress and new Council....the Council is consistent in their environmentalism but the NewsPress editorials have always been inconsistent...we are anti-growth but we support pro-growth candidates and still say in our own front yard that the SB Council is pro-growth shame! Its so transparent that Wendy, TKA et all let their opinions blow with the wind and with convenience. They need to take it easy....

7/17/2007 10:40 PM  
Anonymous First District Streetfighter said...

Who wooda thunk that it all is a choice between awareness of global warming and the Police Anti Gang Task Force?

7/17/2007 10:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to the NewsPress today (7/17/07) we also have kids going to marijuana distribution centers (ACME - 200 block West Victoria) with valid prescriptions -- only to get into a gang melee in front of the store on West Victoria Street with guns and baseball bats.

This happened one block away from the unused teen center the city council pointed with pride as their major contribution after the Saks Fifth Avenue teen killing.

Does anyone else see what is wrong with this picture? City dollars going down the drain along with neigbhorhoods, kids and scared residents whose streets are now taken over by city neglect?

How long ago was it Mayor Marty Blum touted the sunny atmosphere in the city's marijuana shops. I guess she did not visit the West Victoria den of inequity and see what is really going on in these smoked-filled back rooms and what is now spilling out on our streets.

This city is going to hell run by "progressives". Throw them all out.

7/17/2007 10:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Getting swamped by city gang problems today is a hell of a lot more current than getting swamped (or not) centuries later by global warning.

Where is the city councils sense of scale and priorities? How grotesquely did Barnwell genuflect in front of the Blue Line committee as he cast his yes vote on this waste of tax dollars?

Send Barnwell et al on night time foot patrols in our gang-infested neighborhoods if he really wants to get down on his knees and learn what is going down in this city.

Then tell me how happy these parts of town will be when they see the city trucks coming to paint their blue lines across their gang turf.

7/17/2007 11:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the only BLUE LINE this city needs is added police presence in the underserved neighborhood of the lower west side.

7/17/2007 11:21 PM  
Anonymous snarky said...

Blue line is art.
Some art is a challenge.

The real challenge is that life is happening, and that after public grants to support the gang unit ended (aka no more gang problem), the police disbanded the unit, rather than funding it.

The city council does not make the departments budget, the departments do. Put the blame in the group that disbanded it's gang.

7/18/2007 6:29 AM  
Anonymous Mike said...

the latest actions by the SB City council have made Travis and the NewsPress look like geniuses..

7/18/2007 7:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This obviously is the fault of Mayor Marty Blum. She is personally responsible for illegal aliens getting into mortal fights on the streets of Santa Barbara, and the medical marijuana ruse.

Do not blame anyone or any situation other than the mayor.

In addition, Marty Blum has spread disinformation on this controversy that global warming is really happening. It is all fabricated evidence by the liberal elite.

Instead of spending the city budget funds on environmental awareness, fat salaries and pensions for staff, sewer pipes, fire trucks, mowing the grass in the parks, boom-boom fireworks shows, Visitors Bureau grants to promote tourism, government TV productions, traffic calming, General Plan update meetings, theater curtains, brick sidewalks, lawsuits to cover for parental negligence, city Council salaries, and maybe a thousand other spending priorities, ALL THE MONEY should be spent to gang-on-gang violence conducted by illegal aliens.

These endless wanking comments about the Blue Line project are all forms of severe attention deficit disorder.

7/18/2007 7:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Education is great - and needed, education that shows one's place in the world and how one can make a difference. The blue line proposed is part of that education.

Get a grip, folks! $12,000 in whatever way it is spent is not going to solve the gang problem which has been here for years, although as housing prices increase, it seems, so do the difficulties families have to stay here and that impacts, especially, the lower income families whose kids - I'd bet a dime to a dollar - are those primarily involved with gangs.

Education, education, education of all sorts will help. The blue line is a small step in that direction....

Of course, if you want to trash that along with any efforts of public art, well, hey, we're a democratic and progressive city, aren't we? ;)

7/18/2007 7:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read the excellent front page article in the NewsPress this morning (7-18-07) about the gang fight on West Victoria Street showing how indifference the city council was to the pleas of the neighbors who were scared about the marijuana pot shop going in and how Linda Vega and her wonderful dance studio that does positive things for all youngsters in this city will now pack up and leave because of this raging public nuisance the city chose to ignore, and even allowed to be dressed up in the Independent as a welcome addition to our city.

How much more destruction of our city values do you want to keep seeing this city council ignore -- while they paint blue graffiti, open an always empty teen center, and spend more time at out of town conferences congratulating themselves about electric buses, while the rest of our city falls into increasing decay?

It has been happening right under their noses. The NewsPress article tells how indifferent the city council was to the neighbors and families ruined by this pot shop.

Start reading the NewsPress again -it is finally telling the real story of what has been going on in this town that the bias of the old NewsPress always left out while it celebrated the seeds of destruction sown by its "progressive" news favoritism.

7/18/2007 8:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wondering what the urban, social anthropological causes of left-wing environmentalism are. Is there a Doctor in the house to explain it to us? Oh, I forgot, he's out painting the town blue.

7/18/2007 9:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The painting of the blue line is guaranteed to get far-and-wide publicity for Santa Barbara for its eco-awareness, covering up the ever-increasing gang violence--or so the so-called City leaders surely hope. But LA's public television KCET just broadcast a report, and our dirty little secret is bound to get out and affect the glittering tourist industry that supports this town--and because of its unceasing demand for low-skill, low-wage labot, supports the gangs. When gang violence affects a tourist, then the City will crack down.

7/18/2007 9:04 AM  
Anonymous Oldtimer said...

Wow, is Blogabarbara being taken over by the 26%ers from the fringe?It is too sad that our paper has been corrupted, probably beyond repair, and I hope Blogabarbara does not follow.

All the "folks" who hate progressives, don't believe in global warming and despise our mayor and city council really should move. We need the space and will be so much happier without them. Why do they think SB is the great city that it is?
They don't care, too stupid and reactionary to make intelligent connections

I am so sick of their self-serving ignorance. That especially goes for vicious Travis, crazy Wendy and gang. They are just a blight.
May they receive what they give.

7/18/2007 10:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm pro blue-line. It will do a lot to increase the conversation on what we do with ourselves, all 8 billion of us. Also, $12,000 is not that big of a deal when you consider that we spent $600,000 on a $200,000 bathroom next to Borders so that the homeless can urinate all over it.

That's not to say that we shouldn't do anything about the gangs. I say crush the life out of them. Use intelligence to found out who are in these gangs (certainly not impossible). Deport all gang members who are illegal aliens. Deport all of their parents if they are illegal aliens.

Actually, right before we deport them, we'll make them help paint the blue line for free.

7/18/2007 10:56 AM  
Anonymous allegro805 said...

Couldn't those (tax) dollars be better spent solving the city's gang problem?

You all need to get over it.

Once you start going down that path, everything from the city gardening expenses to the weekly changing flags on State Street (and more) adds up to one big superfluous waste.

Better sharpen your red pencils; it's going to be a long night of reviewing the City budget when you're finally elected to the Council....

7/18/2007 12:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't the Council JUST allocate an approximate additional $200,000+ towards the expansion of youth programs and another $100,000 towards bringing the police bike patrols back? And we're complaining about $12,000 that goes towards a project that has created a needed discussion and debate about climate change? How soon we forget.

7/18/2007 12:53 PM  
Anonymous wineguy said...

I don't really think they are Conservative or Liberal -- just incompetent! Did you see the little map in today's (Wednesday's) N-P locating gang incidents? It had Bath Street labeled "Chapala". Must've been one of those temp reporters who isn't allowed out on the streets alone...

7/18/2007 1:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the blue line will unify the city.

7/18/2007 5:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The phoney Blue Line is a mark of shame for this city. I don't want to be known for this act of elected stupidity.

Hollow, meaningless and pseudo-science gestures do not going to define me ..... or my city. It will be painted over as soon as it appears, is my guess.

Might as well put up astrological signs of all the city council members. This city is going down hill fast.

7/18/2007 11:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The blue line has unified the city - in disgust over the waste of tax dollars.

Yes, it is time "we go there" and demand accountablity and direct benefit for immediate public needs and concerns first, and only then and only then go off into some feel good lala land, but on someone else's dime.

I'll stand up for that.

7/19/2007 12:19 AM  
Blogger Bill Carson said...

Sara, In reference to Oldtimer's comment about "crazy Wendy"...I guess it's o.k. then to refer to Stupid Marty in future posts? Just checking...

7/19/2007 10:50 AM  
Blogger MCConfrontation said...

You can always find a conservative, sarcastic, and oftentimes hilarious opinion at the Santa Barbara Minority Report. The latest post deals with the line.

7/19/2007 12:35 PM  
Blogger Sara De la Guerra said...

McConfrontation -- I try not to blindly promote other blogs but will let this one stand as it is new. If the subject matter is related, that's fine.

Bill C. -- what you don't know or appreciate perhaps is that I've moderated out many a comment on Wendy C. that went to far...and allowed many a comment on Marty B. -- even from myself -- that I've thought twice on. The policing part of blogging is tough and I don't blame Craig C. for saying he would never do that. it's a lot of work. It's fine if you want to bias watch but just know that there's a lot of denying comments behind the scenes that you don't know about.

7/19/2007 7:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's nothing funnier than people who pimp their own blogs and point out they are "oftentimes hilarious."

After all, just ask me and I'll tell you how funny I am.

7/20/2007 9:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what you don't know or appreciate perhaps is that I've moderated out many a comment on Wendy C. that went to far.

Apparently not all of them.

..and allowed many a comment on Marty B. -- even from myself -- that I've thought twice on.

How impartial of you to think twice.

The policing part of blogging is tough and

Especially when you have a double standard.

It's fine if you want to bias watch but just know that there's a lot of denying comments behind the scenes that you don't know about.

Do you mean the ones that go against the mission statement?

7/20/2007 10:43 AM  
Blogger Sara De la Guerra said...

Love you you have your own blog? Start one if you don't...maybe you'll see what I mean. Hopefully, you will be as willing as I have been to allow opinions that are different than your own.

7/20/2007 7:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't have enough information on Blue Line to offer an opinion. I don't live in SB.

But I do have an opinion on global warming. It is not centuries away, it is right here right now & if we don't change course it will be too late to reverse what has already been set in motion. Like a run away train.

To understand, we must educate ourselves. Ignore = ignorance.

It is easier to remain ignorant, that way you don't have to actually do anything about it.

Decades ago, before we had any idea about these environmental changes, I had vivid dreams of the ocean rising and the tide coming all the way up State Street.

Our environment has changed significantly. The polar ice is melting. The sea is rising. Right now as we speak.

7/22/2007 11:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, we all know about global warming. No one has to paint a stupid blue line in mainly untraveld parts of town for $12,000. Better they screen Al Gore's movie for a few thousand down at the beach in case there is a single other person in this town who has not heard about this.

What people need to hear is how this issue got hijacked by the developers who want to build, build, build in Santa Barbara in order to prevent global warning. I say we paint a blue line around all the developers and their HOT issue nonsense that really spells $$$$$$.

Developers tart up global warning not with a blue line, but green green dollars. Let them pay for the blue line.

7/22/2007 9:12 PM  

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