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Tuesday, August 19, 2008

Truth About the Miramar

The Internet is a beautiful would this kind of information have gotten out so easily even ten years ago? Like TV, however, you don't have to turn it on. If you want to -- there's a new site about the Miramar Hotel at

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Anonymous truth_is_subjective said...

Hmmm. Looked at that web site. Obviously a bunch of rich people NIMBYs. Much more dangerous than old Goleta-esque NIMBYs since they have access to resources that can create compelling fabrications.

I say be wary of anyone that uses TRUTH as a brand for anything...

8/21/2008 10:17 AM  
Anonymous born yesterday (not) said...

Leave it to the developer to tell the truth about his own project.

8/21/2008 9:40 PM  
Blogger Michelle said...

a) What is a nimby and b) What is the problem with people banding together to make sure that what is constructed there is the right thing for the community? Everyone wants a hotel built there. We don't want something that ignores environmental impacts and breaks the montecito community plan. You could just ignore the whole thing, but don't complain when there is a 50 foot tall wall as you are walking along South Jamison. (In the street might I add... as the developer doesn't even give the public as much as a sidewalk).

8/22/2008 8:31 PM  
Anonymous Green and Mean said...

Everyone does NOT want a hotel built on this site. Particularly one that requires such a huge influx of low-paying (illegal immigrant) jobs to provide the grossly expanded "services" Caruso's newly bloated plans demand.

Put this last patch of undeveloped coastal land in our area out for public auction and turn it over for greenspace.

Caruso has to provide onsite housing for all his workers if he wants to keep going forward. Period. End of discussion.

And he has to clean up his dump NOW! No more games, Caruso. You are not welcome in this town.

8/23/2008 9:45 AM  
Anonymous truth_is_subjective said...

NIMBY = Not In My Back Yard

BANANA = Build Anything Near Anything Never Again

8/23/2008 11:21 AM  
Anonymous allegro805 said...

I'm not a fan of huge developers who run roughshod into communities they're unfamiliar with, and I don't subscribe to "bigger is better" as a mantra.

However, surprisingly, I sincerely have more sympathy for Rick Caruso (and Ty Warner before him) than I do for the folks who are against their projects.

If someone wants to pony up the money to buy the land and turn it into a park, more power to them. Until then, it's a shame that there's no hotel on that historic Miramar property, and in all likelihood there will be one again. You're all just killing time. Suck it up. Zero sympathy. You're coming across like whiners, but I'll admit it's possible that I'm uninformed. I'll hold off until I see whether or not any of you actually embrace a project when one finally gets submitted that is of a smaller scale.

8/23/2008 7:16 PM  
Anonymous Mickey Mouse said...

Rick Caruso bought a plan from Ty Warner (called the Schrager Plan) that was studied by the community for two years and approved. Caruso owns those approvals and permits and could be nearly done with construction by now if he had not had visions of Disneyland grandeur. The plan Caruso put on the table adds layer upon layer to the Schrager Plan, creating an unrecognizable hybrid that violates nearly a dozen community plan mandates.

Everybody wants a hotel, but Caruso got greedy and, not surprisingly, got his hands slapped by the MPC. Maybe by Aug. 28, he'll have lost some of his bravado, come in with his hat in his hand, a dose of reality, and a plan that can actually be built in Montecito. Montecito is a residential community and can only absorb a cottage-style hotel, not some mini-Bellagio. Stop spinning and stalling Rick, pull yourself out of Fantasy Land and get real, and then re-build the Miramar. That’s what everybody wants!

8/24/2008 11:47 PM  

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