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Tuesday, February 06, 2007

From The Organized...A Call to Action

Dear Friends,

Six more News-Press reporters were illegally fired yesterday and
today, bringing the total to eight since late October. The latest
reporters to be fired were among those who displayed a banner over a
freeway bridge on Friday, urging drivers to "Cancel Your Newspaper
Today." Wendy McCaw, the News-Press owner and co-publisher, said they
were "engaging in disloyal conduct," but we know they were fired for
engaging in union activity.

The eight of us who have been illegally fired will be demonstrating
today (Tuesday) in front of the News-Press from 4:30 p.m. to 5:30
p.m., making a lot of noise and carrying signs and banners. We don't
expect you to come out today on such short notice. But we hope you
can join us tomorrow, Thursday and Friday. We'll be in front of the
paper on those days from 3 - 5 p.m.

We are protesting for free speech and the right to unionize the
Santa Barbara News-Press newsroom, and we are demanding reinstatement
and back pay.

We have lots of signs. Any noise-making equipment you can bring,
such as air horns or bullhorns, would be welcome.


PLEASE HELP US TAKE BACK THE NEWS-PRESS!

Join us in De la Guerra Plaza, on the sidewalk in front of the News-Press

Wednesday, Feb. 7, from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m.
Thursday, Feb. 8, from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m.
Friday, Feb. 9, beginning at Noon. 3 p.m. to 5 p.m.

Thank you.

The organized News-Press newsroom staff

106 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It may be raining tomorrow, so the question is, "Will our community allow a little moisture to drown out our voices, our community's freedom of speech and our fundamental dignity?"

I'll see you at the rally, all you "rainshine (and starshine) supporters" of the News-Press employees.

2/06/2007 8:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

for what it's worth: please get rid of the bullhorn. I am on your side. the bullhorn, from a long term perspective, doesn't play well here.

2/06/2007 9:48 PM  
Anonymous David Pritchett said...

They have since revised the schedule so it is Friday at noon, not 3 pm as originally announced.

Friday at noon is the revised time.

2/07/2007 1:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's over. Wendy won!

2/07/2007 8:04 AM  
Anonymous David Pritchett said...

News account of this at EDHAT today.

http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?id=1400&nid=2367

2/07/2007 8:54 AM  
Blogger Voice of Rezon(e) said...

These may sound like stupid questions, since I know very little of the newspaper business but...

Why wouldn't Chris Meager and the SB Daily Sound pick up a few of these well-respected reporters and editors and, in essence, start a plan to replace the NP as the community's daily paper? Perhaps some of the reporters might have to take a pay cut for a while as things get up and running but it's better than no job at all.

Another question I have (since I haven't picked up a NP in months) is how much of the advertising base is still sticking with them vs. moving to the Indy or Daily Sound or dropping their paper advertising completely? Couldn't the Daily Sound make a concerted effort to grab the NP's larger advertisers?

2/07/2007 9:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 8:04: What exactly has Wendy "won", anyway?

2/07/2007 9:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

It's over. Wendy won!

2/07/2007 8:04 AM

And what a Pyrrhic victory it is. She has succeeded in transforming the News-Press into the Montecito Journal, but with bigger pictures.

The Wendy is like Yosemite Sam when he runs into the "Powder Room" and lights a match...the only thing left is him holding the doorknob, looking silly.

But how much longer can she continue to burn through money on all of these antics and pursuing all of her vendettas? She certainly isn't on Forbes' list of rich people anymore. A few of her lawsuits turn around and bite her and "poof" goes a fortune.

I picture her 15 years from now pushing a shopping cart along State Street, collecting cans and bottles and ranting at people about how she used to own the News-Press building.

2/07/2007 9:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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2/07/2007 9:48 AM  
Blogger Sara De la Guerra said...

Let's be a bit more careful with our words bloggers! Emotions may run high but do we want to give her reason to justify her actions? "I'll show them" could likely be the refrain...

2/07/2007 10:05 AM  
Blogger George said...

Instead of getting advertisers to boycott the News-Press, why not get newsmakers? Sure, few reporters are left at the paper, but if the ones who are can't get an interview with anyone, what happens then?

Here's my idea for a N-P news quarantine.

2/07/2007 10:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More SBNP fatigue. Get past the denial - the paper is DOA. Let it die. Let Wendy maintain the offices like that mansion overlooking the Zoo and East Beach...full only of memories.

There's no paper to "return to" anymore. Sorry. Times have changed.

2/07/2007 11:14 AM  
Blogger The Observer said...

Advertisers are caught in the middle. Most of them small businesses who need to advertise their goods and/or services in order to make a days wage, support their families, and have money to spend in the community. Why should they be 'punished' for using a medium?

I don't think you'll have to worry about the remaining reporters (are their any other than the AP feeds that come in?) having much local news to report. After the one foul swoop of 63 years of journalism removed from the building, I'm sure it just keeps angering community members that at some point, the NP will be RIP.

As fast as people are removed from the building will be as fast as people drop their subscriptions.

2/07/2007 11:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anybody have a list of the NP advertisers?

I would definitely NOT want to buy anything from them....

2/07/2007 12:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No Wendy has not won.

What she has done is make the local newspaper with the "best local news that can be had" to be non union. She won that battle.

The battle that she lost is that newspaper is the Daily Sound.

I believe that Santa Barbara will be the better for it.

2/07/2007 12:34 PM  
Blogger Sara De la Guerra said...

Before I get accused of "censorship" one of our readers asked to have a comment removed after thinking about it twice -- this is the kind of self-policing in our neighborhood I like. It wasn't a horrible comment but I thought twice before I allowed it -- let's all do that. Thanks.

2/07/2007 12:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The advertisers have choices like the rest of us. And consequences that go with them.

2/07/2007 12:58 PM  
Anonymous zinfidel said...

Edhat has a copy of a letter written by Mark French, UCSB women's hoops coach, to Gaucho supporters venting his outrage over the firing of John Zant, who covered the team for 20 years.

Wendy and her mob ticked off the wrong guy. French is a beloved figure in this town, and certainly not known for popping off. Alienating him and the hundreds (maybe thousands) of Gaucho loyalists was a stupid thing to do.

You have to wonder: Will French be added to Wendy's list of cabalist enemies? Will the N-P even cover the Lady Gauchos now?

2/07/2007 1:07 PM  
Anonymous carnage asada said...

GOOD NEWS FOR THE NEWS-PRESS!!!

Word has it that Rob Lowe (remember him?) has just reinstated his News-Press subscription.

Wendy has won!

2/07/2007 1:15 PM  
Anonymous jqb said...

the bullhorn, from a long term perspective, doesn't play well here.

Why not? You can't expect anyone to change their approach just on an anonymous say so.

And what a Pyrrhic victory it is.

Wow, an actually valid use of that term -- meaning a "victory" with devastating consequences for the "victor".

A few of her lawsuits turn around and bite her and "poof" goes a fortune.

Not really; 1 billion is 1000 million. People have trouble getting their heads around just how huge the disparities in wealth in this country are, which is one reason that they continue.

Instead of getting advertisers to boycott the News-Press, why not get newsmakers?

A good idea. But I would put a twist on it; instead of refusing intereviews, newsmakers should offer to be interviewed, but during the interview talk only about the actions of McCaw and the N-P.

More SBNP fatigue.

Go sleep it off and leave us alert ones alone.

Why should they be 'punished' for using a medium?

For the same reason that businesses were "punished" for dealing with apartheid South Africa. Let those businesses find an ethical vehicle.

2/07/2007 1:28 PM  
Anonymous First District Streetfighter said...

I see The Observer is back with a memory-wiped new blog after s/he took home his marbles following the recent Goleta City Council election.

Advertisers are going to get caught up in this wheter they want to or not. They are the ones who give money to the source of the whole problem. They should stop. It is really easy.

Macys and Cox should lead the way.

2/07/2007 1:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a listing of running newspress advertisers here:

http://www.santabarbarasblog.com

That is probably the right approach. What business would still want to be branded with the SBNP?

2/07/2007 2:12 PM  
Blogger susano said...

I suppose that it would help if we all wrote to these establishments told them why we are boycotting would be the most effective way off driving the point home. I don't think that boycotting Cox would fly in my house, but I can certainly tell Longs Drugs, for example, that I won't be buying from them anymore and why. I doubt that Longs Drugs Inc. will actually care about loosing my big fat Kleenex and decongestant purchases, but it's a start!

2/07/2007 4:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You old Hippies need to give it up. News papers are dead. We've got the Internet!

2/07/2007 4:15 PM  
Anonymous michelle dunoire said...

Where's Sara McCune when we need her?

If she still wants to be a media mogul, why doesn't she step up and throw some money into the Daily Sound, so that rational businesspersons would have a reason to move their advertising dollars away from the News-Press.

BTW, SDLG, SDLG doesn't = Sara McCune by any chance, does it?

2/07/2007 4:22 PM  
Blogger Sara De la Guerra said...

Michelle -- I usually do not acknowledge identity questions but no -- she and I are not the same. her involvement with the DS would be a good thing -- for all we know it is in the works.

2/07/2007 4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like Mark French is going to need to Lawyer Up. How long till Wendy sues him?

2/07/2007 4:42 PM  
Anonymous michelle dunoire said...

This situation can be resolved NOT by picketing in front of the News-Press, but rather by picketing in front of a couple of the local business that continue to support the News-Press by advertising in it.

While secondary boycotts such as I propose by employees of a business resisting union-organizing or -negotiating are illegal, such boycotts by persons not associated with the union are not. How could they be?

I suggest, as a start, the two mentioned today, Macy's and Cox. How long would they stand for a bunch of locals, cum or sans bullhorns, marching in front of their doors before cancelling their ad campaigns?

In addition, Travis would be hard-pressed to get security to roust the picketers from in front of Macy's.

2/07/2007 4:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Daily Sound should start a subscription drive and if they can get 10,000 or so signups by a certain date, they should launch it as a subscription daily (including weekends). They know where to get the reporters and the advertisers... they are all over town. I would sign up and I've never had a newspaper subscription. The paper is already better and the ads are great. It wouldn't be long before it surpassed the NP's 35,000 paid subscriptions. Give people an alternative that gets delievered to their door and that might flush out another 10k NP subs.

2/07/2007 5:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please be careful about taking this out on advertisers. They are not to blame for your troubles and have a lot invested in this community. They're only doing what they have to do to stay in business.

Ampersand can run for the next 10 years without selling ANY ads. An advertiser boycott won't change anything.

As for those who've been "capped" for organizing and opposing the owner, you have my sincere sympathy. Now you know how every broadcaster in Santa Barbara felt during wave after wave of takeover and acquisition.

Funny - I don't recall the News Press objecting to that. Sucks when it happens to you though, doesn't it.

Karma delivers 24 hours a day. Maybe this is yours.

2/07/2007 5:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oprah!!! Buy the NP!!!

2/07/2007 6:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The NP still has 29,000 fans so wadda gonna do?

2/07/2007 6:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw the kookfest protest on TV. Y'all are an embarrassment to the community!

2/07/2007 7:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the protest signs could list the advertisers that need to be boycotted!

2/07/2007 8:03 PM  
Blogger Truthful Blogger said...

Ahhhh, after reading the ramblings and rantings of this misinformed group of bleeding hearts, I am so glad I live by my mother's advice - "Don't suffer fools easily"

Bravo Wendy McCaw for standing up for your rights as a business owner!

Bravo Wendy McCaw for showing the fortitude to weed out malcontents and protect your business interests!

Bravo Wendy McCaw for not bending to the bleeding hearts and simpltons of Santa Barbara - the VERY SMALL MINORITY of people who feel so compelled to interject themselves into your business!

Bravo Wendy McCaw for putting these people, who would destroy your business, out on the street!!!!!!

Let's make sure that the moderator of this little liberal-gabfest doesn't eliminate my posts... and I promise I will be as aggressive as the bleeding hearts in bring the truth to your readers.

By the way - why doesn't Craig Smith allow posts on his blog??? Anyone ever wonder that. Is it because his information is so rife with mistruths and misinformation and is so lacking in fact that it is easily (very easily) discounted. There's the challenge Craig - set up your blog to accept posts and counter-information... or as I like to put it... truthful information!

2/07/2007 8:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The "embarrassment" to me was how few of the apparently passionate people on this blog showed up to support the News-Press staff today in De la Guerra Plaza. Don't make the same mistake on Thursday, from 3 to 5, and beginning at noon on Friday.
Go make some noise people! I went, and I'll tell you, it felt SOOO good to SHOUT about free speech, instead of just (with all due respect, Sara) typing about it on a blog.
The fired reporters need to see your faces and know they're not the only ones who give a damn about this fight. Show up for them. Shake their hands. Tell 'em thanks for putting their livelihoods on the line so you can have a news source you trust.
Trust me -- it will mean the world to them.

2/07/2007 8:27 PM  
Blogger Sara De la Guerra said...

TB -- you must be pretty new here as anyone that has spent time here knows that I do not "censor" unless someone steps out of bounds with their comments. Opinions are almost always published. Ask Nelville Flynn or Big Fat Fan of Travis -- I may not agree with them often but I am happy to have them comment herein. Welcome to BlogaBarbara and please continue to participate....

Craig Smith likely does not want to deal with the headaches I do :) This is a big job when you consider that I moderate upwards of 50 comments a day....especially when there is a big story people want to talk about. Neither of us make money at this -- so, I don't blame him for not using comments.

2/07/2007 8:48 PM  
Anonymous gee, another freeper said...

If you don't like it, TB, go elsewhere, like freerepublic. Your little flamefest is just lame and tired.

2/07/2007 9:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The rough handling of the NP staff by the current owner has created a lot of sympathy in the general populace.

Don't blow it by attacking their businesses, employers and by extension, their jobs. Hold your fire and don't attack those who would rather support you than be harmed by your anger.

Keep blogging and keep communicating with us.

Ampersand has decided to use the legal system against you. They know the game...drag it out in the courts, bleed you white and proceed as planned. It's cold and it's calculating. There's only one way to fight.

Organize fund raising for your legal defense and ask for the support of all those who want to help you. Together, we have more money than Ampersand.

Raising money for the fight puts the game in play in the only venue where you can win a decision.

Meanwhile...

When the cannon was stolen from the Presidio in old Spanish days (see cannon perdido), the American Governor demanded cash. Nobody knew how anyone could pay.

So they threw a 3 day Fiesta at Casa De la Guerra and raised the money for themselves.

Throw a Fiesta. De La Guerra Plaza. Bands, Dancing, Speakers, Food. Pass the hat. Talk to the people. Tell them your stories. That's the Santa Barbara way to keep your city on your side while you raise money to fight for justice.

Party to the people!
Rally on the spirit of Saint Barbara and the soul of
"Los Viejos"

THAT will make news.

2/07/2007 9:36 PM  
Blogger George said...

Gee, what does it mean when someone bills him/herself as "Truthful Blogger" and then doesn't actually have a blog?

Please illuminate us, oh Truthful Blogger, as to all the untruths on Craig Smith's Blog. Or do you prefer to cast aspersions and have no proof?

2/07/2007 9:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Truthful Blogger said ...

Bravo Wendy McCaw for putting these people, who would destroy your business, out on the street!!!!!!

Who's destroying the business? Instead of blowing out your rhetoric, you ought to check who started the action and then continued it. Not really a way to run a business.

At least the News Press uses fewer trees these days.

2/07/2007 10:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What cracks me up and saddens me at the same time is the same people that rake Wendy Mc Caw, however much she deserves it, are calling for another rich woman, whether its Sara Miller Mc Cune or, now, Oprah, to save them. Also I find it pathetic, and sadly predictable, that while everybody from the Mayor to Assemblymembers were encouraging these NP employees to believe they had widespread backing, they have been hung out to dry. It's on to the next ribbon cutting or some other silly bullshit while these folks try to make tuition, rent, mortgages and feed kids. Thanks for the help. You are real standup. I am sure you will all be in the plaza tomorrow.

2/07/2007 11:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes it is true that Wendy owns the NP and she may do with it want she wants, but there are consequences to her actions and choices.
Wendy owns the NP but it belonged to the community as that was who it was published for and who use it.
I hope that one of the other local papers quickly act to provide our community with a daily paper.
Thanks Sara for all your hard work in put out this blog and Craig Smith for his.

2/07/2007 11:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Think about it...

A News Press Perdido Party!

C'mon, you know you like it.

2/08/2007 12:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes it is true that Wendy owns the NP and she may do with it want she wants, but there are consequences to her actions and choices.

It's true she owns the NP, I don't agree that it belongs to the community. However, the community is her customer base. As customers, we can choose to ignore it. Now that it seems there's hardly anyone left and the paper has gotten so thin, I as a community member and a customer no longer think it's worth buying.

2/08/2007 12:29 AM  
Anonymous Tessitura said...

I am the ghost of blogmas past...oh wait I don't have a blog...

bort!

2/08/2007 12:50 AM  
Anonymous Eckermann said...

This whole News-Press affair has begun to resemble a risky and reckless game of chicken. The parties on either side are careening pell mell toward each other, neither willing to consider turning aside, or even blinking. Taken to its logical conclusion, a game of chicken in which neither party gives way, inevitably ends in a wreck that destroys both participants. Sadly, I see this as the ultimate conclusion to the whole mess. As wealthy as she is, Ms. McCaw cannot indefinately sustain losses, which are the inevitable result of the destruction of her pubilcation's quality. The former writers and editors of the News-Press will at some point have to find other work to pay the bills. The result will be the demise of the News-Press and the scattering and evaporation without a trace of what was once a wonderful team. For now we on the sidelines can only watch as the Rolls and the Chevy accelerate toward each other at ever faster speeds.

2/08/2007 8:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep on the Advertisers, I agree with that. Another good summary today here:

http://www.santabarbarasblog.com

Thank you for taking comments Sara, that is what a true Blog is for!

2/08/2007 12:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 8:27am

I will not show up and thank these reporters for putting their livelihoods on the line. Why? Because even before this mess got started they were putting MY LIVELIHOOD on the line with their biased reporting on political issues. The damage was always done by the facts they chose to omit, the quotes they chose to highlight against the quotes they chose to ignore. That newsroom has
had an agenda for years. Roberts and McCaw finally had a showdown, and the rest is just a bunch people getting caught up in the frenzy.

No thanks, ex-reporters. I hope Wendy finds some more objective reporters to fill the shoes you left behind.

2/08/2007 1:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's not wax too poetic about the demise of the Newspress. It was mediocre newspaper at it's best. If you really wanted to know what was happening in the world or the state you still needed to read the LA Times.

Rarely did the NP engage in any kind of real investigative journalism. For instance the highly corrupt 'affordable housing issues' have been rumors or even general knowledge for a couple of years. An independent investigation would have 'discovered' this a long time ago and the county wouldn't be able to get away from charging some of their own people with crimes as they can today.

Often the stories really were biased ie, the island pigs, the sheriff's council (we really only heard one side and there was a whole lot about this that was known but not reported). Also when the NY Times owned the NP when through it's own yellow journalism they stampeded the area to accept State Water. Where were these 'long time reporters' when we needed them?

The Newspress is dead. I only hope that the Daily Sound will live up to what a good newspaper can be.

2/08/2007 1:35 PM  
Anonymous philisoph said...

Anyone who follows this saga knows that Wendy McCaw was just itching to fire Dawn Hobbs and the other union supporters.

So why did they give her an excuse to do so? They had to know she'd be upset by their freeway protest and would do something about it. The protest struck me as similar to swatting a hornet's nest with a baseball bat, then acting surprised at getting stung.

It's time for both sides to de-escalate this situation, McCaw by not firing the remaining reporters and editors and the union supporters by suspending their protests. Then we can have dialogue.

2/08/2007 1:43 PM  
Anonymous been there said...

When the Tribune purchased the LA Times, many fine journalists who had been with that paper for their entire careers were axed, with no recourse. Sad to say, employees are often treated heartlessly in journalism--and many other fields. That isn't to excuse McCaw and co, just to add a bit of perspective.

2/08/2007 1:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was it just me, or did anyone else notice that today's NP was just a rehash of yesterday's Daily Sound? The Daily Sound might be new and not the quality newspaper we once had with the NP, but we should at least be thankful that we're getting news from somewhere.

2/08/2007 3:06 PM  
Anonymous been censored before said...

Yes, Sara does censor. She promotes the bashing of her favorite nemeses, especially Travis, but go after anyone else and it could be digital duct tape for you, baby!

Certain ethnic groups can be picked on, while others cannot. Native American genocide gets a pass here, but don't mention any other, um, how, do I say, other groups that have suffered mass prejudice and execution. It's not allowed a mention.

Sara used to claim that her blog had no bias. She gave that up after bloggers kept calling her on obviously biased threads. This blog is mostly a gossip and gripe forum for Newspress haters. But the way I see it, they need us here to keep them aware that there is a large group of people who do support Wendy McCaw and her management of the Newspress.

2/08/2007 5:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the end the real losers will be the non-union employees and the community. The news folks have more then thumbed their noses at some what 130 others that aren't invited or wanted in their union. I don't know about you all but I have bills to pay children to put through school and couldn't afford to watch people try to close down my job.

It seems anyone posting here with even a remotely negative or would that be positive statement seemingly to support Wendy McCaw gets tagged as the evil enemy. You all really need to take a step back and look at what is being said. "Help us take back the Newspress??" the last I heard it was never theirs or ours in the first place. Let's all march right on into our boss’s offices tomorrow and demand that we get a say in running the company we work for that we wish to take it back as our right! Wonder how far any of us would get. Please don’t give me the line about the press having to be impartial in it’s reporting of the news. If you honestly can state that news machines like Fox, The New York Times or the Orange County Register do not slant the news to fit their own agendas then brother I have a used monument or bridge to sell to you. Stating that the owners of any business have no right to say who how or why in the running of that business is somewhat akin to the stance of certain current government view points of circumventing due process in the name of “for our own protection”.

Claims and statements such as those being professed by the fired ex Newspress employees are simply ludicrous. The escalating of this issue by the firings is similarly ludicrous. Those demanding the cancellation of subscriptions and boycott of advertising appear to care less about the others employed in that building that are trying to eek out a living in this very expensive community. If I am not mistaken the Newspress employs close to 200 people, only 30 some being involved with the Unionization. What of the other 170? They are not eligible to join the union the newsroom employees selected yet they are impacted greatly by this. Their livelihoods careers and futures are all intertwined with this. The callus attitude of “screw them if they had backbone they’d quit” is totally unacceptable in a society that professes to care about right and wrong. We are all throwing gasoline on this fire, and the sad fact is that many are doing so only for the shear entertainment value and titillation of watching the soap opera unfold before their eyes. Standing up to be counted and to express our opinions is among the rights granted to us by the constitution of this country causing harm to others while doing so is not.

Are we any better then the current management of the Newspress? No not really as we are insisting that people not do business there without for a moment considering the impact on the other 85% of the folks that work there not to mention the impact on small businesses in the area that may rely on Newspress advertising. All for what? The 30 some people that wish to take back what they do not own in the first place? I’m sorry but I simply don’t get it and I simply don’t get that people can not comprehend that others my have questions and opinions that differ then theirs and are not be connected with Agnes or Nipper or Wendy or Millstein or the countless other names associated with this mess. I an certain that there will be many to jump on this and force feed me their explanations of why these few are so damn justified and righteous in their actions. After all any opinions expressed to the contrary of the majority of posters to this blog must come someone being paid to post them. God forbid anyone actually express a opposing opinion on their own.

-Just Another Nobody

2/08/2007 7:29 PM  
Blogger Sara De la Guerra said...

been censored -- let me be clear I've never said I wasn't biased. There was a discussion awhile back where someone accused me of saying that but I don't remember ever saying that here. If I did and you could point that out -- I'll eat crow.

It always amazes me when our readers accuse me of this, I publish it along with practically any other contrary opinion I get -- and somehow that's a problem. I've said this before -- I am biased! Everyone is. That doesn't mean, however, that you can't have your say. Perhaps if you knew how many comments I don't publish that are anti-News-Press -- you wouldn't be so upset...

As for race issues -- they don't have a place here. Neither does mean comments about sexual orientation. Native Ameican genocide? Not sure what you are talking about...what you may not know is that often a comment will be fine until one last line.

As I always say -- if you want to get saracensorsme.blogspot.com and start a blog about this -- go ahead...but you are getting more play on the issue here despite my better judgement.

In short -- I want contrary opinion. Nelville, for instance, hardly ever gets censored although there have been a few times I might have considered it for what he has said about those that have departed or been fired. Your opinion, as well as mine and others, are part of the community conversation we are having. Don't be upset with me though if you are outnumbered :)

2/08/2007 8:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Just Another Nobody,

As one of those newsroom employees, I agree with you wholeheartedly on the fact that ALL NEWSPRESS EMPLOYEES ARE INDEED SUFFERING.

We wished this over on Sept. 27, the day we voted 33-6 for our union reps to sit with us ACROSS FROM (probably Nipper) MANAGEMENT AT TABLE FOR A BASIC CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR WORKING CONDITIONS. Not such a tricky proposition, really.

All it took was for Wendy McCaw to actually recognize our overwhelming unionization vote.

That's all we still want.

She has prolonged this to the detriment of all the other employees of the paper through her objections and terminations. And everyone inside KNOWS that. Believe me.

And again, we invite them. Departments, join us. Call Marty Keegan of the GCC/IBT and schedule a meeting -- just like we did. You know where to find his cell phone number ...

2/08/2007 9:46 PM  
Anonymous First District Streetfighter said...

To Just Another Nobody:

I feel your pain. But you have to realize that the newspaper owner and her flacks are waging war on the talent visible to the public and readers, and 90% of that talent has left since last July. As good as I am sure you do your job, people buy and read a newspaper for what is printed on the pages, especially all those words in neat little columns. By firing the writers the readers want to read, the owner and management are causing the problem.

Apartheid in South Africa largely was defeated because economic and political pressure on the government there became effective to inspire positive change. This is the same thing here, as ugly and painful as it is.

I am sure you need your job as much as anyone, but realize that The Wendy does not give a shit about you. The owner and management are the problems and your enemies, not the unionized employees and their supporters in the community.

You, too, can unionize. Just do it.

2/08/2007 10:03 PM  
Anonymous a somebody said...

To Just Another Nobody:

You raise some valid points; there are far more people affected by this disaster than just the newsroom people. You, obviously, are one. As someone whose checks are signed by Wendy but who is not in the newsroom, I get it. Believe me: If the News-Press closed tomorrow I'd be screwed. I have rent, children in school, the works.

And yet I know there is something bigger than me happening here. What we're seeing here is the simple ability to tell the truth. It is about a journalist's right to report what is happening in the world and your neighborhood without interference or prejudice. It's about a free, unfettered press -- something so important it's in the First Amendment of the Constitution.

Nobody connected with this is doing it for "entertainment value." To suggest that anybody involved -- people who have to pay their mortgages and buy food -- are doing this for selfish reasons is obscene.

I'm sorry you're scared and angry. I'm both, too. But I believe in what the newsroom people are standing up for. I hope to god it doesn't hurt anybody else -- especially the many people I care about at the News-Press -- but what we're seeing is about maintaining basic the American ideal of a free press.

You say that all newspapers are biased. I readily concede that they are run by flawed humans, but you go too far. The vast majority of journalists I know are beholden only to getting it right, and to a fair reporting of events. It's about being a professional.

If Wendy wins, what will Santa Barbara get? What is it getting now? Steepleton testifies in a hearing and then writes a story about it -- without noting that he was a witness or even trying to get the other side. The Op/Ed page has only one side, and Travis refuses to run anything with which he and Wendy disagree. The examples of blatant bias, which you and others decry, are legion. Is that what you want for Santa Barbara?

Again, I'm sorry you're frightened, but this is a struggle of conscience and principle, and it must be done.

2/08/2007 10:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please don't talk about Wendy like she's some hands-on business owner getting in there and working to build up the newspaper. She's a wacko recluse who REFUSES to even TALK to her employees, sending in lawyers and henchmen to to do her bidding. She can't even remodel her house without suing the architect. She can't even break up with a boyfriend with a lawsuit. The woman is a serial loser, akin to the loser in the White House, who screws up everything she touches. The only success she had was in her divorce settlement, but that was a long time ago.

2/08/2007 10:42 PM  
Anonymous donaldo de santa barbara said...

I agree with our Grande Dame of the blog "sara de la guerra" and the post @ 8:04 2/08/07 regarding posts and censorhsip.

While la senorita de la guerra has issued caution at times and posted rare deletion notices, I find the explanations for deletions reasonable.

Please keep in mind that I have also cautioned la senorita de la guerra about my concerns of censorship. The reply has been that censorship will not occur except in a few instances of rare posts such as outing the anonymous and issues of race, etc (which I assume to mean derogatory postings.)

As for the comments that contrary opinions don't get posted, it seems to me that at least on this blog, there are various opinons. Those complaining of a lack of variety are possibly reading selected posts or perhaps the posts do not substantiate their own opinion.

Regarding the side issue, the surviving, 170 non-union employees of the News-Press....perhaps some have not felt the lingering sting by management that the reporting and editorial staff has endured.

The reporters apparently have had an up front, selective and personnel attack on their integirty by a very aggressive management style. The mangement style is the same style in which selected government officials have been attacked.

The current style of the News Press mangaement appears to be an effort to clone the biases of the reporters to match management's own biases. When mangement could not enduce cloning, resignation, resignations and terminations ensued.

At this juncture a bonafide legally elected bargaining union is the best way to resolve the issues. Management refuses to accept the legal vote of the reporting staff to bring both sides into the bargaining process and so management is the roadblock rather than the reporters and their union.

The next step forward is for management to accept the vote for unionization. Again, right now management is in denial of the vote. The NRLB will rule in the unionization effort.

I do not want chastise any of the 170 or so non-union employees, however, for those who may be questioning the ability of the reporters to live in your shoes, you might consider trying on the reporters shoes as well.

2/08/2007 10:44 PM  
Anonymous Park Park Park said...

Sara does a good job. I've been censored by her, and what the hay, it's her blog, and I could always see her point. But she owns this blog just as much as Wendy McCaw owns the News-Press... Sara lets in way, way more diverse viewpoints than Wendy ever has (oh yes, my letters to the editor were spiked at the News-Press).

Just another nobody... the community has a big share in the News-Press... Tom Storke brought the News-Press up to be the dominant newspaper, and his work was deeply intertwined with the community... he got Cachuma, the airport, and UCSB here. It was his force of personality that really resulted in modern Santa Barbara, and he loved the ancient Santa Barbara more than just about anybody, as he and his family had been here about as long as Europeans have been here.

Storke was careful when he sold out in 1964 to McClean to be sure that the paper would maintain is close relationship with the Community. Even the NYT did a lot to keep the special relationship Storke wanted.

But Wendy, she has missed the whole point. If you want to point a finger as to who has put the 130 non-news jobs at the NP at risk, point it at Wendy Petrak McCaw.

2/08/2007 10:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You say the News-Press still has more than 30,000 subscribers? I say journalists have a massive PR problem if that many people don't understand what is being lost in this community. Just the loss of John Zant is enormous. Imagine what he's seen, the generations of athletes, the history, the significance. Now we'll get our sports reported by some neophyte from a junior college who can't afford to live here, and is just doing an internship until landing a job in an affordable town. It will be like that forever more. Beginning writers flitting in and out of the community with not a clue of what happened six months ago. If more than 30,000 don't understand what they are losing, it's time to hire Agnes Huff to turn that around! (just kidding!)

2/08/2007 10:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It shouldn't have to take the kind of courage demonstrated by the newsroom employees to have a voice in the workplace. Surveys show that most Americans would want a union if they could have one, but with employers like the NP, people are scared. Believe it or not, it is longstanding public policy in this country to "encourage" collective bargaining. So, the law and the framework are there for people to indeed have that voice. The law is supposed to ensure that it is not the kind of battle that Wendy has decided to wage. All along the way the union has invited dialogue, but Wendy doesn't talk to anyone who doesn't agree with her, and she sends emissaries not for discussion, but for "cease and desist", for lawsuits, and for building fences, figurative and physical. Eventually she will suffer the (legal) consequences for failing to conduct her business affairs in a rational, responsible manner.

2/08/2007 11:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really think you journalists are on the wrong track to be making noise around the News-Press building and trying to disrupt what goes on there. Don't you know it yet? The News-Press is dead. Poisoned. Gone. You seem like kicked dogs that keep running back to the abusive owner. It's unbecoming.

I think a better strategy would be to stay away from the newspaper and focus on building up another newspaper. You could have forums all over town to discuss what a newspaper is and what it should be. Educate readers. Connect with them. That's the future. Not the rotted out shell that is the News-Press. And all those other shivering denizens over there will be welcomed at new jobs when other newspapers emerge and grow.

Please stop your childish belief that there is any future at all in the News-Press. The owner has decided to destroy it and she shall. Your place is not there. Your place is in the future, with other publications. When you start putting your energies into those other ideas, all manner of good things will follow. The subscribers will follow you, as will the advertisers. Please, give us something to rally about. The News-Press is just a big pile of rotten fish. Let it go.

2/08/2007 11:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop living in the past. There are 30,000 of us who just don't care about your supposed plight! Find another job or some other meaning for you life besides the dying NP!

2/09/2007 9:26 AM  
Anonymous David Pritchett said...

KCSB-FM News Director Cathy Murillo compiled of interviews in this crisp audio from the news conference and demonstration last Tuesday in the Plaza.

http://www.kcsb.org/?p=308
audio file, 21 minutes

2/09/2007 9:37 AM  
Blogger Sara De la Guerra said...

Satire Anon -- take out a word or two and I'll publish what you put up...

2/09/2007 9:50 AM  
Anonymous Wondering said...

I have nothing against David Pritchett & I mostly appreciate his input here & on other blogs, but I think it seems disingenuous when he refers to "KCSB-FM News Director Cathy Murillo" without disclosing that she is his wife. Maybe it's not relevant, but there's something odd about it.

2/09/2007 10:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd rather hear about the real tragedy of Anna Nicole Smith, that this silly squable that these reports brought onto themselves.

2/09/2007 12:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 10:50PM,
Dr. Laura is a NYT bestseller and is part of a large nonunion company (other than Wendy's). If Agnes Huff is too busy, Dr. Laura will share her PR wisdom and nag us to submission! Why is it Wendy's $upport team never mentions the page A2 local column? Wendy gets the global Dr. Laura approval on unions.

30,000 is 1/3 of SB population? Many of 1/3 are not in favor of Wendy, old habits are hard to break. 1/3 is not a big deal, especially as letter writing and notice to advertisers gets going.

2/09/2007 1:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ladies and gentlemen, it’s time for a little satire …

The DisOrganized Players and Eeyores of Santa Barbara (DOPES) is proud to present…

The Continuing Adventures of Windy McCuckoo and Baron von Weisenheimer

ACT ONE, SCENE ONE: The Baron is opening a plastic bottle of water with a corkscrew. He pours the water into a wine glass, then tastes it extravagantly, swirling it around his mouth like a fine wine. Windy is sitting in a chair, watching him adoringly.

WM: Darling?

BvW: (distracted) What is it, darling?

WM: What are you doing, darling?

BvW: I thought I’d try this intriguing little bottled water one of the fellows down at Lucky’s gave me. It’s absolutely delicious. It’s called “Refreshe.”

WM: Refreshe?

BvW: Yes, darling. Refreshe. With an “e” on the end.

WM: That’s how I spell “blonde!” How utterly delightful!

BvW: I thought you’d like it.

WM: Where on earth is it from, darling?

BvW: The fellow told me he got it from somewhere named Vons.

WM: Vons?

BvW: Yes, Vons, darling.

WM: (thinks for a moment) Do you suppose it’s any relation, darling?

BvW: Relation? What on earth do you mean?

WM: I only thought that, since you are the foremost bottled water expert in the entire world, darling, perhaps this exquisite sample came from some faraway, verdant European land once owned by your illustrious ancestors – the von Weis-

BvW: (quickly) I don’t know if I’ve ever told you before, darling, but – technically – the “von” hasn’t always been part of my name.

WM: (pouting) Really, darling? But Weisenheimer all by itself sounds so … common!

STAY TUNED FOR MORE…

2/09/2007 2:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Until a comparable vehicle emerges, the News-Press is the main show in town for detailed local news coverage.

11:13, if it's so easy to create an alternative, why don't YOU do it?

No, the News-Press is worth fighting for. And it will take more than Wendy Petrak McCaw and her millions (and minions) to keep this community in the dark.

2/09/2007 4:01 PM  
Anonymous David Pritchett said...

As for the wonderings of "Wondering" above:
And your point is...??

Yes, Murillo is my spouse. And the KCSB radio News Director. And she edited a damn good and crisp audio compilation with riveting commentary from the news conference and demonstration held last Tuesday in DLG Plaza.
http://www.kcsb.org/?p=308

Want some pictures too?
http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?id=862

If I were providing a link to a news article or story by someone else, as I have done often, I would have noted the name and title of that professional journalist as well, such as Martha Sadler, Chris Meagher, Maria Zate, Matt Cota, Colby Frazier, and even John Palminteri.

Sometimes a cigar is a cigar, dude.

2/09/2007 4:09 PM  
Blogger Sara De la Guerra said...

Thanks David -- I would have answered the same way and figured you would.

2/09/2007 4:15 PM  
Anonymous Wondering said...

David & Sara, I don't think my question was unreasonable or rudely stated so I don't understand why it's being treated as such. In the media I usually choose to read, I'm used to seeing writers indicate via a "full disclosure" reference when they have a connection of any kind to the sources that they quote or promote. David, I'm sorry if you were offended by my question but I hope you will reconsider & see why it would make you look more professional if you followed the lead of other media professionals in this regard.

2/09/2007 5:52 PM  
Blogger Sara De la Guerra said...

I actually don't have an issue with you asking the question wondering -- and think it is appropriate in that that question is probably in the background of a few people. David is showing professional respect for his wife (which all of us could support) and does not have a conflict here as far as I am concerned -- but not everyone may know about their relationship. No problem with your question or David's answer with me..

2/09/2007 6:45 PM  
Anonymous wondering said...

Thanks, Sara. I guess I should have stated my question as a suggestion, since my intent was to make David aware that he might be inadvertently giving the impression of deliberately not disclosing his connection to a source (in this case, his wife). I didn't think that was the case but others might, especially in certain other venues. My feeling is that it's wise to be upfront about connections (spousal, friendship, business, etc.) so as to defuse potential "conflict of interest" accusations. As far as "David is showing professional respect for his wife"--why wouldn't it be respectful for him to mention their spousal connection? The standard way is to include something like "(Full disclosure: Ms. Murillo happens to be my wife.)" This is merely a respectful suggestion which, if followed, could possibly save David some grief in the future.

2/09/2007 7:56 PM  
Anonymous Edited for Content said...

Ladies and gentlemen, it’s time for a little MORE satire (see 2:59pm above)…

The Jealous Egotistical Righteous Kwacks of SB (JERKS) is proud to present…

The Continuing Adventures of Dave **YABBADABBADOO** and Catty MooPillow

ACT ONE, SCENE ONE: The Pillow is opening a bottle of Two Buck Chuck's with her teeth. She pours the wine into a dixie cup, then tastes it piggishly, gargling it around her mouth like a mouthwash. **YABBADABBADOO** is sitting in a chair, watching her adoringly.

PH: Darling?

CMP: (distracted) What is it, darling?

PH: What are you doing, darling?

CMP: I thought I’d try this intriguing wine one of the fellows down at Joe’s gave me. It’s absolutely delicious. It makes me feel rich and powerful.

PH: Rich and powerful?

CMP: Yes, darling. Rich. Like that blonde lady who owns the paper.

PH: How utterly disgusting she is!

CMP: She makes me sick.

PH: Where on earth is she from, darling?

CMP: I don't know, but I'm jealous of her. I should have her money. I'm so good at my job. And she's so...rich.

PH: Poor baby.

CMP: Yes, poor me, poor you, poor everybody.

PH: (thinks for a moment) Do you suppose you're just common, darling?

CMP: Common? What on earth do you mean?

PH: I only thought that, since you are -

CMP: (quickly) I don’t know if I’ve ever told you before, darling, but – technically – I'm the breadwinner here, so watch what you say.

PH: (pouting) Really, darling? But you are so … common!

STAY TUNED FOR MORE…

2/09/2007 9:47 PM  
Blogger Sara De la Guerra said...

Anon above is testing the limits of what I'll accept as free speech -- creative and funny as it may be -- ***YABBADABBADOO*** now means an edited word. I won't do this on every comment -- but creativity like this may be worth the trouble of copying and pasting and replacing....

2/09/2007 9:50 PM  
Blogger Sara De la Guerra said...

wondering -- part of me agrees with you but I also think that she stands on her own and doesn't need to be referenced as his wife. I have great respect for both of them and think they are fine human beings -- it's a little wierd to be talking about them when they are probably in the room :) I also think it's fine that you asked the question and appreciate that you've done so in a civil, respectful way.

David and Cathy -- no disrespect meant here at all. Wasn't sure how to handle what I figured would be a question one of these days -- and your input above David is appreciated. This wouldn't be an issue other than you both are journalists, no?

2/09/2007 9:59 PM  
Blogger John Quimby said...

Sire, The peaseants are revolting!

"You said it, they stink on ice!"

(Thank you Mel Brooks)

Can we finally have a local media that is covering labor issues?

Good greif, I guess it's better late than never.

Look, now that the Queen of Narnia has her own newspaper, maybe we'll finally have some real source of news about labor before the next grocery strike.

The Indpenedent is doing it's best between engagements with rich celebritainers but still, more could be done. And KEYT actually showed up! (Bravo JP!)

But this NP thang ain't the only game in town. And since we're all fired up...has anybody noticed that the nurses at Cottage Hospital still can't organize?

How about the work slow down at the SB High School District. Now I realize it's hard to tell when they slow down, but even so, attention ought to be be paid!

Has anybody noticed that the local media have NEVER supported a labor action in this town?

...until now...MAYBE.

2/09/2007 10:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The story about the illegally fired reporters needs to be about them and the injustice perpetrated on them. Everyone else should take a back seat and not insert themselves and their egos into the fray.

2/09/2007 10:45 PM  
Anonymous David Pritchett said...

My original comment at 0937 with a link to the KCSB radio story
http://www.kcsb.org/?p=308

was not referring to Murillo, the KCSB News Director, in the context of a "source" as if I were interviewing anyone and making any news analysis that could be biased.

That comment merely was referral to a link that is another news archive of the event that day. If "Wondering" has heartburn with my description of that radio story as "crisp", I actually meant the quality of the audio file and not the editing or content, especially when compared with the non-crisp audio quality of my recent video files posted with links here at the blogs.

A reference to the existance of a news radio file is hardly frought with potential conflicts and bias as if it were a news interview and/or analysis subject to discretionary judgement. So, I am still acting "professional" but I only wish I actually were paid money for all of this.

Also, one can only take these anonymous comments and criticisms so seriously debating with pseudonyms. Are we all really going to set a standard, while still commenting anonymously about some of the most sensitive or silly topics, that any connection to friends or relatives or business associates or tennis partners or drinking buddies, or mere reference to them, must have some form of disclosure in a blog comment??

And, in a town so small and interconnected as Santa Barbara??

When I sip my tea in a little cup should I also be sure to extend my little pinky finger??

2/09/2007 11:17 PM  
Anonymous park park park said...

To get serious for a second... can we organize ourselves to convince Starbuck's to stop selling the News-Press at their shops?

Starbucks kind of prides itself on being a good employer. There would be good PR in an announcement from them to the effect that they switched local newspapers in Santa Barbara.

Which one should they sell? You know, at this point I'd go more often to Starbuck's if I could buy a copy of the Santa Maria Times there. I don't even know where to purchase a Times on the South Coast. Usually I read it at the public library. Maybe the Lompoc Record is equivalent.

The the specific proposal to Starbucks would be to stop selling the News-Press and pick up another local paper in southern Santa Barbara County. I bet 500 letters to the president and/or CEO of Starbucks would do it.

2/10/2007 6:49 AM  
Anonymous everybody's a critic said...

Please, for the love of allah, no more satire, Edited for Content. Good intentions are no substitution for talent.

2/10/2007 7:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Santa Maria Times has an internet special. Subscribe to home delivery via their online registration form for 50% off their regular price, for 26 weeks. It works out to just above $31.05 That's a good amount of time and a small investment to find out if the SM Times can fill the gap the News Press has left.

https://secure.townnews.com/santamariatimes.com/subscriber_services/new_subscription/

2/10/2007 8:02 AM  
Anonymous Park Park Park said...

Will the Santa Maria Times deliver on the South Coast?

2/10/2007 8:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An LA Times person told me today the paper has seen 5,000 new subscriptions in the SB area. He said it was because of some outrageous deal the Times has, but I have to wonder how many of them are from people who bailed on the News-Press.

2/10/2007 9:35 AM  
Anonymous Proudly anonymous said...

There is something to be said for the concept and practice of anonymity---it places principles before personalities.

I for one appreciate that this blog is RUN by an anonymous local resident. That has helped keep the focus on the issues. Same with the discourse.

2/10/2007 10:14 AM  
Anonymous newspress reader said...

I buy my Newspress at Starbucks.

I'll stop buying Starbucks if they choose to drop the Newspress.

FYI.

2/10/2007 10:18 AM  
Anonymous Fred Flintstone said...

Joke's on you.

2/10/2007 10:23 AM  
Anonymous wondering said...

David, I've tried to be as civil & respectful as possible in my comments but from the way you have responded it seems like I have touched a nerve; so you may want to examine why you are reacting as though you are thin-skinned & unable to take constructive criticism (something that professional writers need to be able to do). Your comment "If "Wondering" has heartburn with my description of that radio story as "crisp" is baffling since I never made any reference to that or any other thing you wrote--I only commented on what you didn't include, & I stand by that. When someone constantly promotes someone else's work & doesn't disclose a close connection, people are going to think there is something amiss. You could probably see the truth of that if it was relating to someone other than yourself & your wife, such as Wendy & her bottled water expert boyfriend. Perhaps the disconnect for you is that you don't perceive what you're doing as "promoting" your wife's work (& I want to emphasize that I have nothing against her or her work--it's good & I don't blame you for wanting to get the word out about it). But it IS promotion. I'm sure you don't want to seem hypocritical but that's the way it looks when you don't hold yourself to the same standards as you hold others. Please step back & take a look.

2/10/2007 10:35 AM  
Anonymous David Pritchett said...

Nimmer Video Now Showing of Wednesday News-Press-Mess Demonstration

The latest half-hour local video production by Larry Nimmer, entitled Noise-Making Rally, now is scheduled and showing on Santa Barbara Channels TV, cable Channel 17. The first showing was Friday night and this marks the fastest production turnaround yet, only two days. The schedule so far is below for this event that occurred on 07Feb.2007.

Saturday 2/10 at 4:30 AM AND 2:00 PM
Sunday 2/11 at 2:30 PM and 10:00 PM
Tuesday 2/13 at 9:30 AM AND 6:30 PM
Thursday 2/15 at 11:30 AM AND 5:30 PM
Friday, 2/16 at 9:30 AM
Sunday 2/18 at 2:00 PM

Additional showings will be listed in the Channel 17 schedule:
http://www.sbchannels.tv/cgi-bin/schedule17/calendar.pl

2/10/2007 11:12 AM  
Blogger Sara De la Guerra said...

The two of you commented before I moderated -- let's move past this now. Both of you have made your points.

Thanks.

2/10/2007 12:58 PM  
Anonymous non news press reader said...

Hell, I'd start going to Starbucks if they dumped the News Press.

2/10/2007 1:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Wondering,

Be prepared to be ignored. These bloggers are on a mission to take down the NP. They are dishing out the criticism, not taking it. They don't want your criticism. They aren't interested in discussions of professional integrity when it involves them. Nice try at constructive dialogue, though.

2/10/2007 1:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Getting abit tired of seeing D. Prichett's notices repeated on threads here & other blogs. Too much of a good thing is still too much...

2/10/2007 1:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That debate about references to other news links brings up questions about what standard is supposed to apply here in a blog comment. Is Pritchett entering a reference to KCSB.org and the news there somehow the same as Wendy McCaw including an article about or by her boyfriend in her own newspaper?

When or why is a comment at a blog held to the same burden of disclosure as a conventional newspaper that should follow professional standards of journalistic ethics?

Also, how are these standards supposed to apply when most of the comments are by people using fake names anyway?

2/10/2007 2:50 PM  
Anonymous wondering said...

Sara, it sounds like a new thread may be needed to address this tangent I inadvertently introduced. Anon. 1:38, thanks but I respectfully disagree with your statement "These bloggers are on a mission to take down the NP." I think the NP's owner & management have done a fine job of taking down the paper all by themselves. Anon. 2:50, I think you've raised good points, including "How are these standards supposed to apply when most of the comments are by people using fake names anyway?" Ironically, if David Pritchett posted anonymously he would never be called to task for not divulging his relationship to Cathy. Anonymity does serve multiple purposes.

2/10/2007 4:30 PM  
Anonymous David Pritchett said...

"Called to task"?? "Divulging"??
"Grief in the future"?? "Conflict of interest"??

I have zero regrets about posting a link and reference to an audio news story by my spouse in her capacity as the News Director and editor of that story about the subject of the blog post. As I often do, I would post a comment with such a link to ANY news story, audio, video, or text that portrayed the issues so well, regardless of who produced or wrote the news story.

This is a blog comment, not a news article with a duty for objectivity. I act as a journalist when I am doing journalism, not serving as a web site linking service.

And for more about my favorite subject, be sure to see the long interview with the very same Cathy Murillo in the latest Nimmer video about the NewsPress demonstration from last Wednesday, schedule posted above:
2/10/2007 11:12 AM

Unlike my prior post to the radio news story here
http://www.kcsb.org/?p=308
this is a true plug for that video by Nimmer (plug) on SBChannelsTV-17 (another plug). Blogabarbara is great (triple plug).

Let the scandal begin, led by anonymous blog commenters!!

2/10/2007 6:22 PM  
Anonymous wondering said...

David, I give up. You have totally missed the point.

2/10/2007 7:05 PM  
Anonymous Enough already said...

again, can this blog please be about helping the journalists take back the news-press, and not a
clash of egos and personalities among people who are not among that group.

thanks.

2/10/2007 8:04 PM  
Anonymous Jonathon Not-Too-Swift said...

Let the healing begin, I say. But first, a little satire …

The DisOrganized Players and Eeyores of Santa Barbara (DOPES) is proud to present…

The Continuing Adventures of Windy McCuckoo and Baron von Weisenheimer

THE STORY SO FAR: Windy was shocked to discover that the Baron, despite his illustrious last name, was not, in fact, the heir apparent to the Vons grocery fortune. Meanwhile, back at the mansion, the Baron drank a cup of water.

ACT ONE, SCENE TWO: The Baron is nursing a gin and tonic after a hard day’s water tasting. Windy is seated at her writing desk, pen in hand, poring over a large volume of “Bartlett’s Familiar Quotations.”

BvW: Darling, that nice young fellow from the Thing-y called again.

WM: (distracted) The Thing-y, darling?

BvW: You know, the Thing-y with all the words in it that we paid a lot of money for a while back.

WM: Oh, you mean the Santa Barbara News-Thing-y. (pouting) Darling, I don’t mean to quibble but I think I used MY money to buy the Thing-y.

BvW: (dejected) Of course you did, darling. (perking up) Tell you what, though. I’ll spring for lunch at Lucky’s tomorrow – for BOTH of us this time! Then we’ll be all square!

WM: (gushing) Oh, darling! You really know how to make a girl feel special – even a fabulously rich girl like me! (her mood suddenly darkens) Who was it who called earlier, darling?

BvW: What’s his name, the fellow from the Thing-y what makes all the words sound good together.

WM: The editor, darling?

BvW: That’s him!

WM: But, darling, I thought the help from the Thing-y were told never to pester us here. I mean, what’s the point in us giving all that money to the little man who’s supposed to take all the bad and mean things and make them go away as if they never happened?

BvW: (puzzled) The Dalai Lama, darling?

WM: (exasperated) No, darling!

BvW: Oh, you mean the lawyer fellow.

WM: (throws down her pen and bursts out crying) It’s so, so hard having to write these beastly editorials all by myself and then having to find a beastly quotation by somebody smart and famous so that it looks like you thought exactly the same smart thing that they thought only now they’re probably dead! (wailing) I’ve already used up Browning and Churchill! Whatever am I going to do next?

BvW: (thinks for a moment) Well, darling, you could look under “D.”

WM: (clapping her hands) Darling, you are SO smart! Whatever would I do without you!

STAY TUNED FOR MORE…

2/11/2007 12:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who's gettig fired tomorrow? The NP seems to start the week off that way.

2/11/2007 7:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's Huff doing these days? Is the NP looking more USA TODAY? Travis sailing with sabbatical jester this week end? Is everybody getting memos or letters, be loyal or else? What was Wendy McCaw's childhood about? Her history? Are there new hires? Just fires?

2/11/2007 6:59 PM  

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