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Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Thoughts on Hillary's Speech...

A little off-topic for this local blog but it is clear that the next two weeks will be held in check by the Democratic and Republican Conventions.

Hillary -- who couldn't mention her husband's name until halfway through her speech -- did an excellent job at leading her supporters into tomorrow night's nomination process. The ending was amazing and the part about women's rights was amongst yourselves.

Also, after a the news from a few weeks ago, we aren't likely to see any mention about Senator John Edwards are we? Yes, I feel betrayed -- but will he be allowed any say for his 200-some delegates? I don't even know if he is scheduled....


Blogger Cookie Jill said...

Watching the coverage on CSpan I swore I saw Judy Egenolf.

8/26/2008 10:20 PM  
Anonymous editress said...

Dear Hillary, All is forgiven. Not get your PUMAs in line and let's take this country back from the Neo-cons and war-obsessed. Thank you for your grace and good sense. Between you and Michelle, our daughters have unbelievable role models to show them the way ahead. I'm proud once again that I waited for hours to see you at City College a long time ago, and even that I supported you and Bill during troubled times. Now let's watch your husband rise to your example in his speech tonight.

8/27/2008 10:01 AM  
Anonymous We own our votes said...

I own my vote and it will never go for Obama.

8/27/2008 10:38 AM  
Anonymous Don Jose de la Guerra y Noriega said...

I told you about Edwards Sara...long ago...

8/27/2008 5:16 PM  
Anonymous senor conquistador said...

don jose de la guerra y noriega

What did you tell Sara, about Edwards? That like all of us he has failings but otherwise a fairly he is an honorable man.

8/27/2008 10:50 PM  
Anonymous Can't keep a good woman down said...

Tee, hee. Word is out - Hillary wore an orange pantsuit in honor of the Ukrainian Orange Revolution that protested a corrupt election that was eventually over-turned. Gawd love the visuals, Hill, you rock!

8/27/2008 10:57 PM  
Anonymous No Mac for Me said...

We Own...who would you vote for? And why? Hillary Clinton was my first choice, had my vote. She likes the outcome less than you, fer sure. But unlike you she has the cajones to put the past aside. Unlike you she sees getting Obama elected is the first step toward ending this sick odyssey the Republicans have launched us on. Unlike you she understands it not about her, but about us ('us' as in Americans since you're clarity challenged).

What...? You want more of Dick and Bush? Are you a masochist? John McCain is a man to be admired for his service and courage in captivity; but I will vote for no one-NO ONE-who would choose to prolong this lunacy launched with a lie by Bush in Iraq. We have the powerful obligation to bring our soldiers home safely and that will take time-and more lives. But do whatever it takes to get our people home as fast and safe as possible. We don't need a revival of The Dick, Don and George Traveling Horror Show with a new cast.

8/27/2008 11:33 PM  
Anonymous Who needs to get over it now? said...

Imagine if the tables were noble would the Obamaniacs be in urging support for Hillary. How much would the media pile on day after day and what sexist terminology would they find to mock those who still supported him..right, not so much on all fronts. So if anyone needs to "get over it" it is the self-righteous Obamaists who used every means necessary to squeak by a victory in the primary, regardless of what impact that might have in November.

8/28/2008 7:45 AM  
Anonymous I own my vote said...

Harrop has a superb column in the Daily Sound today about the Hillary problem that Obama and the Democrats created. It is not Hillary's to solve, this mass alienation we supporters feel and have no problem voting for McCain. It is the problem Obama himself created that drove us permanently away from anything he represents.

No problem at all supporting McCain. He was good enough to be thought of as Kerry's running mate just 4 years ago and he is good enough for centrist Dems today. Painting him all the sudden as some monster who will relentlessly destroy America shows how very out of touch Obamabots remain.

Now get this and get this good: Obama was the one who drove us away so there is no way we can ever come back ...... as long as he is on the ticket.

And guess what, that does not mean we are racists. It means we are clear-thinking independents who long ago saw through his paper-thin resume, his total lack of accomplishment and the meaness of his entire campaign.

Obama represents nothing I want in my life. Including more insulting harrangues from his supporters like you, NoMac.

The nation is lucky the Republican's punted and Maverick McCain emerged as the real champion of what is right about America.

8/28/2008 1:25 PM  
Anonymous Party Unity (sic) said...

I own my vote -- interesting thoughts AND I think many of us could say the same about Hillary. I'm not sure what he did to drive anyone away when she acted like the presumptive nominee for so long. Who do I want to answer the phone at 3 AM? Any of them would really do fine but Hillary could have done the math a lot sooner.

8/28/2008 3:11 PM  
Blogger johnsanroque said...

Everyone has his or her opinion, so here's mine. When the campaigns began YEARS ago, I thought that I'd vote for Hillary. She slowly and steadily lost my support by the political stands she took or did not take, but also because of the meanness displayed by her campaign in trying to defeat Obama. I was surprised and disgusted to see that the Clinton political machine operated at a very low and unsubtle level.

Yes, it's true that Hillary got dissed because of her gender, but it was the media and the Republicans who did that--not Obama or Edwards or Biden. Obama also got dissed because of his race and his name--mostly by Republicans and the some media, but sometimes by the Clinton campaign. That was unforgettable.

Having said that, I'd vote for Hillary in an instant over McCain. I think McCain is a decent human being, but his politics have no appeal for me.

Obama won; Hillary lost. Part of the reason she lost is that some of her supporters went to Obama because they found his politics to their liking, and because they also were offended by the way the Clinton campaign treated him. The reverse was never true.

8/28/2008 7:01 PM  
Anonymous No mac for me said...

So, We/I own...your visceral response is interesting, in light of the fact you addressed statements I didn't make and ignored some I did. Kind of like the Bush White House treats the American public. So, again for clarity purposes, I'll repeat: I voted for Hillary. I've believed from the Clinton Presidency she was the better half of that pair.

But she isn't the Democratic candidate, Obama is. I would have voted for John McCain four years ago, but that was then; he isn't the same candidate now. And that's his bad We/I, not Obama's. And no, I didn't say or imply he was on a "relentless mission to destroy America." I don't see a big Mac Attack if he's elected E/I; just a continuation of the hopelessly failed Bush legacy.

And what's right about lying to lead this country to war? What's right about a trillion dollar deficit? What's right about tax breaks for oil companies with billion dollar profits? Nada; zip; zilch. A big fat ZERO, E/I/O (unless you hold oil stocks, I guess).

Since when are contrary opinions "harangues," EI/EI? Why is your skin so "paper thin?" And where did you come up with "racist" from my post? I didn't write that in; why would you bring it up at all?

In summary, EI/EI/O, I have nothing against you personally and this is a country where we all have a right to our opinions, no matter how disagreeable. So fire away; I agree to disagree with you. But make no mistake; we have a failing economy, jobs are leaving the country like poo through a goose. Most offensive of all are the lies of the Republican White House and the war that resulted.

Lastly, your football analogy is all wrong...if the Republicans punt, we get the ball.

8/28/2008 10:08 PM  
Anonymous I own my vote said...

Corrections are in order. Hillary Clinton was never the one who trashed Obama. It was the Obama people who distorted every single thing Clinton said and did.

What you forget is the raw footage of all her alleged "crimes" Obama screamed the most about were available on the net, and they were always benign under any interpretation.

But you never would have guessed this listening only to the Obama people scream ....racist, liar, emotional, manipulator, yada, yada, yada about virtually every single thing that came out of Bill's or Hillary's mouth. And now you are re-writing this version of campaign history.

That is what permanently turned me off - actually viewing the public record and then comparing it to the outrageous and vicious interpretations put out by the Obama people.

Thank god Clinton never stopped to the fraud and thuggery Obama used to hijack this nomination. She was smart enough to know tactics that may win a nomination end up destroying winning the election.

Obama never understood this. His was a win at anycost and now is trying to rewrite his entire campaign and political history in to one huge lie ----- except to those of us who know what the truth is and have access to it so readily on the net.

This country is too good for Obama. And Obama shows all signs of knowing it is now over for him and his crazed acolytes. What ever came over them. They hate America so much they were willing to believe all of Obama's lies. And that is why Obama has no legs to get anywhere past Denver. And only because people around the world also hate America so much, were they too willing to go along with Obama's lies.

McCain and Palin are true patriots and have had to guts to work for their beliefs about what is right with America, at great political risk. They have done far more than just talk about it; they have taken actions at their own political peril.

And this courage has resonated, whereas Obama is quickly running out of steam because he has nothing more than words and lies that are all coming back to bite him big time.

You hitched yourself to the wrong star this time, my friend. It is okay to love and believe in America again; not hate it like Obama preaches. He has based his campaign on what he claims is wrong with America that he is going to "change".

Obama hates America and he asks us to hate America too. McCain does not ask that of us - he asks us to keep making things better. This is a huge difference.

Obama has shot himself in the foot and has run out of new people who still want to hate America along with him.

"Change" was totally the wrong tact to take. Too bad. It is too late to "change" his message. Remember, winning the primary never assures winning the presidency. Otherwise we would always have two Presidents.

8/31/2008 8:05 PM  
Blogger johnsanroque said...

To: "I own my vote said"

I hope Sara does not remove this because she thinks it's a personal insult directed at you. It's a calm assessment of your response.

You have gone off the deep end. You're spouting every bit of garbage the right-wing wingnuts have used against Obama. It sounds like the raving of a person who cannot accept the simple concept of losing an election, so that person comes up with deranged, personal attacks that have no basis in fact. Your evidence is the Internet? Does that mean you're quoting other deranged persons like yourself who are consumed with hatred, stew in it for days, and then blog it?

You sound like someone dangerous.

9/01/2008 8:29 PM  

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